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How long to take down the Interbus Station? Small corps not able?
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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2011-12-03 23:07:04 UTC
lab geek011 wrote:
Gabba Cyno wrote:
lab geek011 wrote:
Eve is always the same, the big corps get it all and the lower corps get crap

How can i compete with my 2 man corp against a corp that has set up 5 Customs offices as they have 95 people

It stated in the post that they would be removed it said nothing about having to destory them




You cant. Just like you cant be a part of sov war in 0.0. Life isnt fair incase you didnt know. Why should a game as dynamic as eve be any different. PI is basically free isk anyways. If ccp gave you 100m isk per week some of you would complain that you should be getting 200m



When it states that they would be decommissioned and removed i went out and purchased a few to do my part only to find i have to destroy them by doing 14.5m damage, it is easy for big corps but what about the small ones. it would take around 4-5 hours per one and in low sec thats to long



I live in a C1, so no big firepower. We took our first one down. Yes it took 3hours and 54 minutes, but it went down.
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#22 - 2011-12-05 00:40:13 UTC
I've killed about 70 Interbus POCOs now, 14.5mil EHP each. With a small group of supercarriers it takes 8.5mins each. The killboards are bugged and don't register them as valid kills yet though
Itsvan
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-12-05 01:01:53 UTC
Valeroth Kyarmentari wrote:
Sort of bums me out. I'm all setup to put up a new customs office, but I can't take out the NPC station. And I don't know who to trust to help me do it. I'm in a small corp with only 3 people, so I guess I'll have to wait for everyone to be on at once.

Instead of complaning like everyone else, I was going to take some action! Now meh.


All corps make Big Alliances, time for Low sec to get interesting!

Small Corps keep Posting please, low sec is every ones space.
Anishoara
Federal Institute Service
#24 - 2011-12-05 02:00:55 UTC
We used :

1 x Raven Torp
1 x Dominix sentry T2
1 x Abaddon + 5 fighters
1 x Maelstrom + 5 fighters


It took us approx 1h to destroy one.
Irongut
Sex Money Guns
#25 - 2011-12-05 13:25:47 UTC
If you're a 2 man corp trying to anchor your own COs you're crazy. Even if you could anchor them you'll never be able to defend them. You're best bet is make friends with a larger neighbour and get them to give you access to their COs at a favourable tax rate.
Salcon Cliff
Zephyr Corp
#26 - 2011-12-05 14:30:58 UTC
Really? Really? People are whining about having to kill the interbus COs? You might have to commit some time before you make some isk, kind of like everything else? And here I was thinking random gankers were going to run around smacking COs. I did see COs appear on KBs, so maybe 'trophy' hunters will do it for you....
Valeroth Kyarmentari
Verdant Rampart
#27 - 2011-12-05 15:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Valeroth Kyarmentari
Salcon Cliff wrote:
Really? Really? People are whining about having to kill the interbus COs? You might have to commit some time before you make some isk, kind of like everything else? And here I was thinking random gankers were going to run around smacking COs. I did see COs appear on KBs, so maybe 'trophy' hunters will do it for you....


I'm not really whining about killing the Interbus stations, and PI really is an isignificant portion of my income. I was just thought it would be fun to setup a customs office. I don't even care if it ever pays for itself. It was just a bit of a letdown to not be able to built it (the instant gratification is gone). Not a big deal really, and I'm working on getting some people together to take one down. It might get done, it might not.

I do appreciate most of the feedback I've gotten in this thread. Gives me a better idea of what I should organize.
Hundo Kay
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-12-05 16:39:05 UTC
Jita Bloodtear wrote:
I've killed about 70 Interbus POCOs now, 14.5mil EHP each. With a small group of supercarriers it takes 8.5mins each. The killboards are bugged and don't register them as valid kills yet though


I think the Interbus ones are NPC and will not generate KM.
Lightword
Wish to Dream
#29 - 2011-12-05 19:41:34 UTC
Go hire a merc corp to blow them all up. Then follow behind dropping and upgrading. To easy, just know that you wont be able to protect them. So, cut a deal with the merc and add them as a +10 standing to the corp and they will be more inclined to help you defend the copo.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#30 - 2011-12-05 20:05:02 UTC
Valeroth Kyarmentari wrote:
It was just a bit of a letdown to not be able to built it (the instant gratification is gone).



EVE has instant gratification?Shocked

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Valeroth Kyarmentari
Verdant Rampart
#31 - 2011-12-05 20:08:13 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Valeroth Kyarmentari wrote:
It was just a bit of a letdown to not be able to built it (the instant gratification is gone).



EVE has instant gratification?Shocked


Big smile lol
Mentat Cthulhu
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-12-05 20:49:49 UTC
If you can't handle taking down the customs office then you should just leave it be and pay the higher % npc tax.
Not A Vampire
Doomheim
#33 - 2011-12-05 20:59:38 UTC
Mentat Cthulhu wrote:
If you can't handle taking down the customs office then you should just leave it be and pay the higher % npc tax.


QFT
Anishoara
Federal Institute Service
#34 - 2011-12-06 01:23:44 UTC
Hundo Kay wrote:


I think the Interbus ones are NPC and will not generate KM.



A killmail is generated !
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#35 - 2011-12-06 05:24:17 UTC
OK when I hear "Small corp" I think 10-15 people on during peak hours.

Honestly if you can't get that then you won't be able to defend your customs office anyway.

A while ago we managed to hold down a lowsec station system 1 jump out of highsec with 10ish people on at a time. And this was before Incursion depopulated lowsec and nullsec, and before Incarna depopulated all of eve.

Yeah you might be unfortunate enough to live next to some lowsec power blocks but you are never going to get hot dropped by a huge nullsec empire, there are simply too many planets to take and hold in eve so I imagine you'll just have to worry about local politics.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544
Mr Twinkie
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2011-12-07 04:55:03 UTC
lab geek011 wrote:
Eve is always the same, the big corps get it all and the lower corps get crap

How can i compete with my 2 man corp against a corp that has set up 5 Customs offices as they have 95 people

It stated in the post that they would be removed it said nothing about having to destory them



I'm sorry but a 2 man corp is nothing more then 2 friends with a chat channel. You complaining that you cant compete with a real multi hundred man corp with officers and a structured op calender.. Thats like Uganda complaining USA's military is unfair.

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TorTorden
Tors shibari party
#37 - 2011-12-07 16:13:14 UTC  |  Edited by: TorTorden
Mr Twinkie wrote:
lab geek011 wrote:
Eve is always the same, the big corps get it all and the lower corps get crap

How can i compete with my 2 man corp against a corp that has set up 5 Customs offices as they have 95 people

It stated in the post that they would be removed it said nothing about having to destory them



I'm sorry but a 2 man corp is nothing more then 2 friends with a chat channel. You complaining that you cant compete with a real multi hundred man corp with officers and a structured op calender.. Thats like Uganda complaining USA's military is unfair.


Some of us take things maybe a bit more seriously, since we take years building our 100+ member corps, spending hours building corp structure, logistical infrastructure.
I have personally written 3000 lines of php for our internal web tools.

@lab geek011, take a pill and be quiet.
Tash'k Omar
Indefinite Mass
#38 - 2011-12-07 16:48:30 UTC
Akita T wrote:
10 mil HP, 20 minutes -> ~8.3k DPS.
So about 6-7 gank BSs, give or take.


14.5 mil hp, 20 minutes -> 12,083 DPS.

15 Battleships with 800 DPS a pop.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#39 - 2011-12-08 13:27:32 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:


I live in a C1, so no big firepower. We took our first one down. Yes it took 3hours and 54 minutes, but it went down.

The new tier 3 BCs fit into C1s don't they?
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If you need more firepower to take down a customs office, hire a merc corp for a couple hours. The whole point of a merc corp is to get jobs done that a corp couldn't on their own. I would caution that if you need the extra firepower, you probably won't be able to defend your customs offices, however.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2011-12-08 14:56:19 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:


I live in a C1, so no big firepower. We took our first one down. Yes it took 3hours and 54 minutes, but it went down.

The new tier 3 BCs fit into C1s don't they?
===

If you need more firepower to take down a customs office, hire a merc corp for a couple hours. The whole point of a merc corp is to get jobs done that a corp couldn't on their own. I would caution that if you need the extra firepower, you probably won't be able to defend your customs offices, however.



They do,

But at the time nobody had one. Had an opportunity with a closed up WH (no active WH's) and I didnt want to risk opening the static and leaving to pick one up.


And honestly my built inside Dominix with a full rack of blasters and gardes would have out DPS'd a Talos (my large hybrid skills aren't there yet).

Future CO bashing will have some of the new BC's and will work better. The point however is that even with relatively limited firepower it did go down. And that one CO is saving just my PI 460mil isk per month in taxes.
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