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Lieutenant Ouyano's Research into the appearance of the Drifters

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Reko Blancwoodd
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2015-02-20 15:12:07 UTC
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
Reko Blancwoodd wrote:

Lt. Ouyano

When did you become a lieutenant?

Answered privately.



I was never answered privately as far as I can tell.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#42 - 2015-02-20 15:16:41 UTC
Please take a look at your private messages.
Reko Blancwoodd
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2015-02-20 15:27:43 UTC
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
Please take a look at your private messages.


I have now received the mail. Thank you.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#44 - 2015-02-20 15:35:10 UTC
I"m not sure what effect a gas cloud is going to have on people in air-tight ships.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#45 - 2015-02-20 15:35:20 UTC
No personal squabbles here. I just call things how I see them.

The way I see things the most obvious and simple explanation for what is currently happening is that the Drifters are starting a war with us.

Call me a warmonger, say my combat experience has jaded me to the point that I'm a hammer who's only able to see the Drifters as nails. Whatever. I've yet to see a convincing argument that Drifter activity can be explained as anything but an invasion.

Obviously I wish this wasn't the case, but reality has a way of not conforming to my wishes.
Reko Blancwoodd
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2015-02-20 15:56:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Reko Blancwoodd
Rinai Vero wrote:
No personal squabbles here. I just call things how I see them.

The way I see things the most obvious and simple explanation for what is currently happening is that the Drifters are starting a war with us.

Call me a warmonger, say my combat experience has jaded me to the point that I'm a hammer who's only able to see the Drifters as nails. Whatever. I've yet to see a convincing argument that Drifter activity can be explained as anything but an invasion.

Obviously I wish this wasn't the case, but reality has a way of not conforming to my wishes.



It doesn't seem as though they are at war with us. They seem to be on the defensive front to me. I could be wrong but it just doesn't seem like a good strategy to go on the defensive front first if your attempting an invasion.


By defensive front I mean they don't seem to be actively hunting capsuleers, but only seem to be protecting their towers.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#47 - 2015-02-20 16:14:56 UTC
There's an archaic term from planetary warfare in ancient times when militaries had to transport soldiers via oceangoing ships. Although its anachronistic, occasionally it is still used in military planning to describe certain operations in interstellar warfare.

"Establishing a Beachhead."
Reko Blancwoodd
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#48 - 2015-02-20 16:20:20 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
There's an archaic term from planetary warfare in ancient times when militaries had to transport soldiers via oceangoing ships. Although its anachronistic, occasionally it is still used in military planning to describe certain operations in interstellar warfare.

"Establishing a Beachhead."


Yes thats true, however it seems more reasonable they are here for another reason than war with New Edan.

With that said, I would rather be prepared for the worst and be right in my theory, than unprepared and wrong. We need to begin getting ready for the possibility of a full on war with these drifters, however we should still be attempting to avoid one if possible.
Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2015-02-20 16:58:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Kithrus
Rinai Vero wrote:
There's an archaic term from planetary warfare in ancient times when militaries had to transport soldiers via oceangoing ships. Although its anachronistic, occasionally it is still used in military planning to describe certain operations in interstellar warfare.

"Establishing a Beachhead."


At first glance that's a a fair assumption however if I was establishing a beach head I wouldn't let anyone near it.

So far up till now they only fire on aggressors and certain people they don't like or got too close. To date they have allowed me in any ship I fly to be as close as I wanted.

I find this odd because honestly I politically am anti Jovian, I have more then my share of Sleeper blood/wires on my hands and align myself with honestly the most intolerant faction in new Eden.

So I'm quite confused why I'm permitted so close. Maybe because I have high security status?

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#50 - 2015-02-20 17:11:25 UTC
Who knows? We'll see. It is clear that they are responding to perceived threats with force.

Believe me, nobody will be more relieved than me if it turns out they're just here to repair the faulty cloaking devices and then leave us in peace. Gone and mysteriously as they appeared.

I'll believe it when I see it. My gut tells me that's not what is happening.
Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2015-02-20 17:56:29 UTC
Thank you, once again, Lt. Ouyano for your diligent and well documented efforts.

I'm almost starting to think that we're encountering multiple clones of Apollo and Artemis. Or perhaps they have some kind of tolerance limit, and it's just seemingly random because different people are causing them to reach it.

I think it is reasonable to conclude that the Drifters are prepared or preparing for war. But, as Lt. Ouyano and Mr. Kithrus have indicated, I think it is the height of hubris to assume that we are who they are at war with. We do not, at this time, have conclusive proof as to the relationship between the Jove, the Sleepers and the Drifters. There is also a question as to how the Sansha may or may not fit into this puzzle.

As a race, we are young, and the universe is ancient. Let's not look at the nearby stars that we have conquered and forget that out there beyond our reach lie the depths of the universe. And there, as the ancestors of our ancestors would say, there be dragons.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference

Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#52 - 2015-02-20 18:08:00 UTC
I whole heartedly agree Apollo and Artemetis have multiple clones.

To me it is evident these "people" are basically the computer that runs the ship. I have also decided the ships are otherwise unmanned.

What does this mean?

I theorize.

1) The Drifters are entirely capable of operating battleship sized craft with only 1 operator.
2) The Drifters are very likely to not be human at all.
3) Due to the Drifters being completely focused on operating their craft, and being non-human, things that seem basic to us -specifically verbal and visual communication, are completely foreign to them.

Conclusion:
We must diligently and tirelessly work todecrypt the visual messages they are trying to convey to us with the mysterious light patterns they emit.
Azrial Bathana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2015-02-20 19:04:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Azrial Bathana
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
I whole heartedly agree Apollo and Artemetis have multiple clones.

To me it is evident these "people" are basically the computer that runs the ship. I have also decided the ships are otherwise unmanned.

What does this mean?

I theorize.

1) The Drifters are entirely capable of operating battleship sized craft with only 1 operator.
2) The Drifters are very likely to not be human at all.
3) Due to the Drifters being completely focused on operating their craft, and being non-human, things that seem basic to us -specifically verbal and visual communication, are completely foreign to them.

Conclusion:
We must diligently and tirelessly work todecrypt the visual messages they are trying to convey to us with the mysterious light patterns they emit.


I heavily doubt the drifters aren't human. What evidencen do you have to support that claim?
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2015-02-20 19:33:04 UTC
Azrial Bathana wrote:

I heavily doubt the drifters aren't human. What evidencen do you have to support that claim?

The only reason we want to attribute them as humans is because of their face. Once you get past that they do not seem human.
Maybe they are something that used to be human. . . But has since evolved.
Malissa Hehir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2015-02-20 19:43:17 UTC
drifters are now at jump gates
Azrial Bathana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2015-02-20 20:03:12 UTC
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
Azrial Bathana wrote:

I heavily doubt the drifters aren't human. What evidencen do you have to support that claim?

The only reason we want to attribute them as humans is because of their face. Once you get past that they do not seem human.
Maybe they are something that used to be human. . . But has since evolved.



so no actual data then?
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#57 - 2015-02-20 20:06:08 UTC
Whether they are human or not, they obviously are motivated by a purpose. They demonstrate the capability to communicate and coordinate with each other. They demonstrate the ability to observe and collect data about their surroundings and our technology in particular. Whatever they are, they are either a product or a descendant of a human civilization that at some point was split from our very own common ancestors.

Likely, they are connected in some way to the Jove with whom we communicated and interacted for centuries.

Again, this leads me back to the conclusion that should they desire to communicate with us they would be doing so. They would probably also be doing it in a way that we would recognize, as their scans by now have given them more than sufficient information about our communication systems.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#58 - 2015-02-20 20:09:14 UTC
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
Azrial Bathana wrote:

I heavily doubt the drifters aren't human. What evidencen do you have to support that claim?

The only reason we want to attribute them as humans is because of their face. Once you get past that they do not seem human.
Maybe they are something that used to be human. . . But has since evolved.

Sounds a lot like a few people I know.

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Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#59 - 2015-02-20 21:14:12 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
No personal squabbles here. I just call things how I see them.

The way I see things the most obvious and simple explanation for what is currently happening is that the Drifters are starting a war with us.

Call me a warmonger...



You're a warmonger.


Stay away from them.



Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2015-02-22 00:49:39 UTC
Drunken musings on the Drifters:

Lo, behold the young ones. They who are beginning to see things as they are.
What wonderous things they are about to see.
What terrible things they are about to see.
Lo, behold the foolish ones. They who have little knowledge of that which they plumb.
Through a firm hand we will guide them
Through a strong force we will mold them.