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Lieutenant Ouyano's Research into the appearance of the Drifters

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Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-02-19 16:16:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Lisa Ouyano
Greetings.
My name is Lisa Ouyano, I am a lieutenant in Peace and Order, as well as a FC in SAK.

The appearance of the Drifters is certainly startling to us all, and has left more questions than answers.
I have been working independently to develop workable theories as to what their presence means, and possible ramifications.

I decided to commence my research project in the system of Afivad, where one of their towers has recently decloaked.
First and foremost these structures are obviously enormous. Measuring nearly 200km from tip to tip.
Second, every single structure has a gas cloud of some sort around it. The gas cloud is nearly 200km across.

My first thought is that the structures are pumping out some sort of gas. Further investigation seems to hold to this theory.
You can readily see Exhasut Pipes on these structures. These pipes are connected to Massive Hoses. It is also incredibly evident that the lower half of the structure is Hollow.(1) Gasses can easily flow into this part of the structure, or possibly out of. I strongly believe gasses and air are being forced OUT of this part of the structure due to the inability to fully proceed into the structure. I suspect forced air was halting my progress.

My research into the vents came abruptly to an end when Artemetis fired upon me.

I noted their hostility towards Jove-esque craft from other reports.

At this point I decided to investigate the Drifters and leave the structure alone.
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As I approached Artemetis she began to scan and or transmit data to me.
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I strongly believe they are attempting a form of visual communication, but at this point I am entirely uncertain what it is they are trying to convey.

I wound up spending several hours with them, occasionally bumping them, occasionally being bumped. But the entire time I was being scanned and or contacted by both Apollo and Artemetis.
An interesting note, I was able to receive their signal up to 1 AU away.


My theory:
The Drifters are at war with the Jove and have come here to find any hidden Jove and eliminate them.
The gas clouds are likely a chemical and or biological agent that is specifically targeted tow the Jove.



I thank everyone who has given the time to read my report and findings, and am very open to responses, theories, or counter-theories.


Regards,
Lisa Ouyano

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Azrial Bathana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-02-19 16:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Azrial Bathana
Your research seems fairly well conducted however I'm forced to point out again that they seem to be aggressive to all vessels, not just jovian crafts.

Now it's possible they may hold resentment for the jove however it seems like a long shot to me. Lets not accept this as truth as of yet.

Good work on your research. keep up the good work.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-02-19 16:31:58 UTC
Azrial Bathana wrote:
Your research seems fairly well conducted however I'm forced to point out again that they seem to be aggressive to all vessels, not just jovian crafts.

I would like to cite this evidence again.
I spent several hours with Apollo and Artemetis. Locking both, bumping both, weapons clearly displayed and online.
They took no aggressive action against me.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#4 - 2015-02-19 16:32:11 UTC
May want to redact part of that last image.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-02-19 16:35:07 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
May want to redact part of that last image.

No desire. I am not revealing any unwanted intel. But I thank you for your concern.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#6 - 2015-02-19 16:38:25 UTC
I wonder, on the subject of communication between Sleepers / Drifters and ourselves: why is it assumed that they have anything they want to say to us?

For the Sleepers, it was perhaps understandable that we weren't able to communicate. After all, direct interaction was limited to their automated Drone units. Sleepers themselves are within a virtuality that is so far inaccessible to us as far as I know. Perhaps they are unable to communicate outside that virtuality in a way we can recognize.

But the Drifters... if they are Jovian in origin there should be no similar barrier. We had no problem communicating with the Jove in the past. Even if these Drifters are from a Jovian sect that predates those we knew in the past... it seems like there should be every reason that they would be able to communicate with us if they desired to do so.

Hell, as long as these structures have been present in our space they should have a full linguistic history of the development of every language in New Eden. To me it seems clear: they don't communicate because they have nothing to say to us.

The question is: why?
Azrial Bathana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-02-19 16:40:24 UTC
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
Azrial Bathana wrote:
Your research seems fairly well conducted however I'm forced to point out again that they seem to be aggressive to all vessels, not just jovian crafts.

I would like to cite this evidence again.
I spent several hours with Apollo and Artemetis. Locking both, bumping both, weapons clearly displayed and online.
They took no aggressive action against me.


Thats odd however it is not indication of a drifter/ jovian war.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-02-19 16:45:38 UTC
Azrial Bathana wrote:
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
Azrial Bathana wrote:
Your research seems fairly well conducted however I'm forced to point out again that they seem to be aggressive to all vessels, not just jovian crafts.

I would like to cite this evidence again.
I spent several hours with Apollo and Artemetis. Locking both, bumping both, weapons clearly displayed and online.
They took no aggressive action against me.


Thats odd however it is not indication of a drifter/ jovian war.


Correct, it does not in and of itself indicate a war. But this is my theory, and I will be working further to either prove or debunk my theory.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-02-19 16:48:43 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
I wonder, on the subject of communication between Sleepers / Drifters and ourselves: why is it assumed that they have anything they want to say to us?

For the Sleepers, it was perhaps understandable that we weren't able to communicate. After all, direct interaction was limited to their automated Drone units. Sleepers themselves are within a virtuality that is so far inaccessible to us as far as I know. Perhaps they are unable to communicate outside that virtuality in a way we can recognize.

But the Drifters... if they are Jovian in origin there should be no similar barrier. We had no problem communicating with the Jove in the past. Even if these Drifters are from a Jovian sect that predates those we knew in the past... it seems like there should be every reason that they would be able to communicate with us if they desired to do so.

Hell, as long as these structures have been present in our space they should have a full linguistic history of the development of every language in New Eden. To me it seems clear: they don't communicate because they have nothing to say to us.

The question is: why?


Perhaps the Drifters are not fully conscious? Perhaps they are in some sort of sleep while in their ship? Perhaps they Drift between consciousness and unconsciousness which would make standard forms of communication impossible for them.

I only suggest this because I have noticed multiple Drifter battleships, but only 2 pilots. I suspect they have multiple clones of each, and either one acts merely to control their vessels.

Of course this is only my theory, and I need to work further to provide more evidence of this.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#10 - 2015-02-19 17:05:30 UTC
We can speculate any number of rationalizations, but the most simple explanation for their silence remains that they have nothing to say.
Azrial Bathana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2015-02-19 17:08:53 UTC
Lisa Ouyano wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:
I wonder, on the subject of communication between Sleepers / Drifters and ourselves: why is it assumed that they have anything they want to say to us?

For the Sleepers, it was perhaps understandable that we weren't able to communicate. After all, direct interaction was limited to their automated Drone units. Sleepers themselves are within a virtuality that is so far inaccessible to us as far as I know. Perhaps they are unable to communicate outside that virtuality in a way we can recognize.

But the Drifters... if they are Jovian in origin there should be no similar barrier. We had no problem communicating with the Jove in the past. Even if these Drifters are from a Jovian sect that predates those we knew in the past... it seems like there should be every reason that they would be able to communicate with us if they desired to do so.

Hell, as long as these structures have been present in our space they should have a full linguistic history of the development of every language in New Eden. To me it seems clear: they don't communicate because they have nothing to say to us.

The question is: why?


Perhaps the Drifters are not fully conscious? Perhaps they are in some sort of sleep while in their ship? Perhaps they Drift between consciousness and unconsciousness which would make standard forms of communication impossible for them.

I only suggest this because I have noticed multiple Drifter battleships, but only 2 pilots. I suspect they have multiple clones of each, and either one acts merely to control their vessels.

Of course this is only my theory, and I need to work further to provide more evidence of this.


As for the name issue i think they may be more of a rank than an actual name.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-02-19 17:12:26 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
We can speculate any number of rationalizations, but the most simple explanation for their silence remains that they have nothing to say.

That is quite possible, but I feel it is unlikely.
These are obviously a social peoples, hence their desire to always fly with at least 2 craft present.
I feel they lack a specific means to communicate with us.
Azrial Bathana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-02-19 17:13:05 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
We can speculate any number of rationalizations, but the most simple explanation for their silence remains that they have nothing to say.


I would assume they have something to say, maybe they are just waiting for the right time to say it.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#14 - 2015-02-19 17:34:41 UTC
Lisa Ouyano wrote:

I feel they lack a specific means to communicate with us.


How is this possible? Humans have been overcoming vast barriers to communicating with each other for uncounted millennia. We developed language itself out of only our innate cognitive abilities, the ability to make signals, and capability for pattern recognition.

In our time we have so many more resources available that it beggars description. Any being capable of building starships shares understanding of mathematical principles that can be leveraged for forming the basis of shared communication. Lacking means to communicate simply is not possible. You're telling me they can't blink a light in a pattern of 0s and 1s?

They choose not to communicate. That is the only explanation that makes any sense.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-02-19 17:41:26 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Lisa Ouyano wrote:

I feel they lack a specific means to communicate with us.


... You're telling me they can't blink a light in a pattern of 0s and 1s?

They choose not to communicate. That is the only explanation that makes any sense.

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They are blinking lights at us.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#16 - 2015-02-19 17:46:00 UTC
And does your research indicate that there is a pattern indicative of an attempt to communicate in those blinky lights?
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-02-19 17:47:47 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
And does your research indicate that there is a pattern indicative of an attempt to communicate in those blinky lights?

As I have noted, I am unable to determine what they are trying to convey with their visual communication.
Later I'll be doing more research into this, but I fear without some sort of a decryption-device it can be very difficult to tell what is exactly meant by the light and pattern.
Anslo
Scope Works
#18 - 2015-02-19 18:02:01 UTC
No offense Lisa but a group with the kind of tech we've seen so far wouldn't need lights to communicate. They'd just take our transmissions or translators and go from there. I honestly think they're just scanning us and simply don't want to talk. But hey maybe I'll be eating my words in the coming weeks.

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Siddhar Gangari
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
#19 - 2015-02-19 18:02:24 UTC
Perhaps the Drifters do not like capsuleers because we ourselves utilize Jovian technology in our ships and brains. Perhaps this splinter group feels such technology should never have been gifted to humans in the first place.
Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-02-19 18:05:11 UTC
Anslo wrote:
No offense Lisa but a group with the kind of tech we've seen so far wouldn't need lights to communicate. They'd just take our transmissions or translators and go from there. I honestly think they're just scanning us and simply don't want to talk. But hey maybe I'll be eating my words in the coming weeks.

Entirely possible. Again I have not done much research into how and if they are communicating, but I intend to later today.
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