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[EMERG] [A'J] Drifters - Emergency Statement
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Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#21 - 2015-02-18 22:57:31 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Haria Haritimado wrote:
Beginning with those who are true neutral.

True neutral ... you mean all standings at zero? That's mostly just rookie pilots.

If even those.

... I'm still hoping to see more data on what ship types get shot at.


Yes, I was thinking about people who just joined the capsuleer society. Generally, the test could and should be done with several different sets of standings. I know that it is hard to collect empirical data, but maybe an anonymous questionnaire would help to evaluate the impact of the CONCORD standing distribution on Drifter aggression.

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Captain Davison
Malachi Keep Detachments
#22 - 2015-02-19 03:53:17 UTC
Is it possible that despite taking on Jovian names and airs that these are not jove after all? After all, we did give SOMEBODY a jillion billion quantum-crazy*Redacted*-cloned jove bits. Somebody who was working with these Circadian Sleepers. And now all of a sudden heavily cyborg 'jove' show up, all looking mostly alike.
Daniizz Maven
Cr3at3r
#23 - 2015-02-19 22:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniizz Maven
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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#24 - 2015-02-20 17:56:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
Captain Davison wrote:
Is it possible that despite taking on Jovian names and airs that these are not jove after all? After all, we did give SOMEBODY a jillion billion quantum-crazy*Redacted*-cloned jove bits. Somebody who was working with these Circadian Sleepers. And now all of a sudden heavily cyborg 'jove' show up, all looking mostly alike.


This is a very important point. The modern Jove already have that DNA. There is literally no reason for them to ask for it when they already have it. Assuming these Drifters are some sort of long-lost jovian cousins, why would they want modern jovian DNA with all of it's problems? Their own DNA would be much better suited to pretty much anything, especially if their objective is to find a cure to the Jovian disease. So the real question is "Who would not have access to Jovian DNA that would want it? And for what purpose?"

Now all of a sudden we have Drifters. They appear to be jovians, but heavily augmented with cybernetics. They are flying what appears to be older jovian tech. There are exactly 4 of them. But we see multiples of them regularly.

I say they are cloned pilots created expressly for the purpose of flying jovian tech. Perhaps only jovians can fly jovian tech due to some form of genetic security system. But this begs the question: who made the clones, and where did they get the tech?

The obvious answer for the second question is w-space. There is a ton of old sleeper tech out there, and plenty of evidence to support that the Sleepers are actually the remnants of certain Jovian enclaves dating back to the 2nd empire.

The less than obvious answer is Prosper Vault, 3-CE1R. If I were the Jovian Directorate and I got a bunch of old tech stolen by Sansha's Nation, I surely would not admit it to the public. Nothing of value was lost. Don't mention that it's all still 3 tech levels higher than anything the rest of the cluster possesses.

Either way, it seems pretty obvious that Sansha's Nation is tied in with this. They would have the skills necessary to create cybernetically-enhanced jovian clones that could pilot more advanced tech. And they certainly have the motive.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#25 - 2015-02-20 22:18:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayze Severasse
I went to find these Drifters and the observations I made were extraordinary.
I started in Balle, and hopped between the "unidentified structure" and the "unidentified wormhole".
I was cloaked in a Helios and observed a capsuleer in an Astero salvaging nearby frig wrecks created by the Drifter Battleship. The Drifter was being kept occupied by his drones...I then docked my Helios and warped back in my Variant AU-79 pod, after asking if anyone checked if they pod (reply was no one tried).

The Drifter became interested in me, scanned me and did not blow me up. People warned about my pod as I orbited @ 500m.
I replied that they could come try and pop me, jokingly. What happened next was witnessed with awe and wonderment as to why......

To that joke capsuleer Ciniel replied "Im gonna kill it"...."solo".

Some jokes were made, then I saw it first hand. These are the events that I broadcasted in the Wormholes channel, and verified by 3rd parties who came to watch.

Ciniel warped in at around 100km distance in a Cerberus.
She lit her mwd and locked the Drifter....she started missiles. The Drifter stayed with me...Ciniel proclaimed "It's glitched"

It scanned me some more, then warped off. My intuition told me I glitched it. So I immediately docked up and got back in Helios.

It was found at first at the structure...so I warped to the wormhole @ 100km cloaked. Sure enough she was there (Drifter was woman).

I broadcast in Local to Ciniel of the Drifters location.

She came and did the same thing.

This time, I watched the Drifter chase her @ 3.4km/s...she maintained a 200km lead and launched volley after volley of large missiles in the chasing Drifter's face. Ultimately popping the Drifter and taking no damage.

A male Drifter warped in from Engel(something, 2 jumps aways) and I watched it again....then a pair 1 male 1 female came...and again both chased and both died.

I don't know how much longer this behavior will continue...they may learn not to chase.

[P.S.]
No links or anything were used by Ciniel....the capsuleer figured that the Drifter's speed closed the distance gap quick enough that missiles hit at the extreme ranges
Achilles Keldon
EVE University
Ivy League
#26 - 2015-02-23 12:18:37 UTC
Aah bad Latin!!! Please don't call it that, please don't ever, ever call it that, it will drive me mad if I have to keep hearing it. Destructum is not destroying, it's having been destroyed. Perfect passive participle. Use the present active participle, destruens. Or, better yet, name it Lux Vastans or Lux Delens. Same thing, but I personally think they sound better.
Achilles Keldon
EVE University
Ivy League
#27 - 2015-02-23 12:21:44 UTC
Pulled this off google at random to illustrate my point:

http://www.usu.edu/markdamen/Latin1000/Chapters/23ch.htm
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