Intergalactic Summit

Here's some information from dotlan.

Region: E-R00024

Same region, as some of the previously known systems but different constellation.

I don't have the time right now but I'll have to cross-reference this list later.

Edit: I should also note that Thera is the only one of the "new" systems I've seen yet in a completely unrecognizable nebula, though it does appear to be on the other side of some very highly illuminated gas/dust. It seems to be in an entirely different region, and that is also true if we assume dotlan is accurate, and also our ships are registering regions/constellations properly in Anoikis.

-Eran

This is an interesting discussion. I am sure it has been done before, but I am fairly new to all this so here goes:

After a long expedition in w-space, and carefully reviewing all sites and following the scientific method as strictly as I could manage I have formed a wild theory. I stress the term "theory", there is no conclusive evidence other than my own capabilities of observation and logic.

What we call "Sleepers" could actually not be related to humanity directly. It is my belief that the sleepers are some form of evolved AI, invented by humans (the Talocan?). In the same way we see rogue drones today evolving basic intelligence, being kept in check only by our own activtites. We have evidence that the Talocan at somepoint faced serious hardship or even extinction. I urge you to imagine what would happen if humanity was suddenly extinct from known space? The rogue drones would be unhindered to colonize all known space and evolve into something much more advanced and frightening than what they are now.

This is what I believe took place in ancient time inside the Anoikis. The Sleepers are nothing but AI, created to serve an ancient races purpuse. In the absence of their masters, they could have developed free will, advanced science and technology to their own liking or both. They may now have their own agenda or still serve as guardians to a long lost people's heritage.

All this can be linked to current events. We have seen stasis facilities inside Anoikis. What if its the Talocans that lie in stasis, guarded by their faithful creations? Now, imagine if someone, unnamed here but easy to guess, tried to interfere with the stasis facilities and their contents? I would find this good reason for the Sleepers to rise and retaliate against such an invasive event.

We should not rush to categorize Drifters as Jovian. There are similarities, granted, but nothing is unrelated and there could be explanations. The Jovians could actually be the descendants of the surviving Talocan for that matter. Nothing exists to indicate this, but it could very well be true, after all we are all only human.

Obviously? I doubt it.

Please, do not get absorbed into the superficial similarities while completely disregarding the major differences.

The jovians we know of are a sympathetic, social race with a high moral standard. They also, to our knowledge have never dabbled in cybernetics. The aggression, lack of any communication and heavy cybernetics we encounter from Drifters set them way apart from any Jove standars in my mind. They could actually be cyborgs in Jovian masks for that matter.

This applies to their tech as well. The argument "they have a jovian superweapon" is not that strong. They have a superweapon, that reminds us of the Jovian one. Science is the same for everyone to invent and it can also be copied, stolen or salvaged.

It was the cultural differences I see between Drifters and Jove that sets them so far apart in my mind, and thus the "mask" argument, it was not meant to be taken literally. It meant that if I did wear a jovian mask but acted in all ways unlike a Jovian, how Jovian would that make me?

Anyway, I have made my points and presented my arguments. It is fully in your rights to disagree and I can respect that.

Until proven otherwise, I declare the Drifters guilty. Guilty of the same crimes as the Jove, of whom they are surely some foul offshoot. Guilty of transhumanism. Guilty of the treachery of Vak'Atioth. The penalty for these crimes is death. There are to be no peaceful overtures, no attempts at communication. Only killing, the killing rendered unto all those who stand against a holy and righteous God. Amen. Amarr Victor.

knock yourself out dealing justice as you see fit. Please however, refrain from interrupting scientific process with decrees of murderous zealotry. It is misplaced to say the least.

I would also urge you to feel the back of your neck and consider your own mortality before accusing anyone of transhumanism.

Unless you actually mean it, and punish yourself with death as well. Or, maybe you wish to forego your status as a meta-human and become mortal again, in which case I would like to know your whereabouts.

Is it confirmed they attack on sight ANY that approach? or just those they have , and the seekers have, been attacked by?
Their behavior is striking me as.. extremely Capsuleer in nature.

They attack on sight any that approach. At least by the wormholes. There's been reports from some that they are less aggressive in other locations. But they have attacked even non-combat ships near the wormhole staging areas, and chase down those who run away and apparently will gate-camp and wait for them if they leave system.

Familiarity is all well and good, but let's not ascribe familiar motives to unfamiliar interlopers.

I feel an important question at present is can their wormholes be collapsed? Does gravimetric distortion using appropriate ECM close down the wormholes? If not, does destroying the Sleeper power structures either side have any noteworthy effect?

Our guests appear to be establishing ad-hoc beach heads, a way to at least temporarily stem the flood might be useful.

I would very much appreciate that. I am always reachable via evemail, and if in pod, will prioritize nay real time chat about these events.