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Caldari T3 Destroyer next?

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Jallukola
#1 - 2015-02-17 12:46:55 UTC
Yes it's a bit early to talk about this, but I wonder what sort of bonuses should the ship see. Purists and history lovers would argue missile systems over hybrids, but I think Claradi has already plenty of missile boats at disposal, and Caldari deserves more hybird platform love IMO.

When the time comes, Gallente can keep their drone bonuses for all I care like they have for ages already, but I think purism with Caldari's T3 would be a waste.

But I also feel this would be a perfect opportunity to break a certain formula; Yes all 4 factions have access to Drone capabilities, and out of the 4 factions, 3 have Missile ships. Perharps CCP should blow a hole unto this titanic instead let it be miscruised. Give Caldari their Hybrid bonuses in time, but make Gallente's T3 Destroyer a Missile Ship.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#2 - 2015-02-17 15:02:28 UTC
No!

I want citadel torpedo launchers on that destroyer or six times that new jove super-doomsday turret.

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ErgoDron
#3 - 2015-02-17 15:24:19 UTC
Jallukola wrote:
... I think Claradi has already plenty of missile boats at disposal, and Caldari deserves more hybird platform love IMO.
... purism with Caldari's T3 ..., but make Gallente's T3 Destroyer a Missile Ship.


elitatwo wrote:
No!

I want citadel torpedo launchers on that destroyer or six times that new jove super-doomsday turret.


Forum troll detected. Both of them.
Hagika
Standard Corp 123
#4 - 2015-02-17 19:39:45 UTC
Caldari already has 2 missile destroyers and only 1 hybrid. The new T3 Dessie should be rail fit with ridiculous range.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-02-18 01:34:07 UTC
U think we need another railgu but smaller size?

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#6 - 2015-02-18 01:38:21 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
U think we need another railgu but smaller size?


LML boat would be more overpowered.
Brumortateu Rhadoshm
Iota Piscium
#7 - 2015-02-18 02:21:47 UTC
How about some bonuses to shields in general and to capacitor size, to build on some Caldari strengths?

Caldari are efficient, so they could come up with better power grids/cpu grids, agility etc.

Maybe give them some drone bonuses, perhaps a new drone technology that allows it to use drones more efficiently, perhaps some kind of drone scripting that allows drones to have better tracking, better range, better speed as needed.

Since Caldari are the ultimate capitalists, perhaps tie that into it somehow, maybe some kind of remote freighter boost, planet colony boost, or damage bonuses against pos's and such.
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-02-18 02:36:27 UTC
Caldari will get rails, Gallente will get guns. It's what follows the amarr and then minmatar t3 tactical destroyers 'roles'.

Been around since the beginning.

Trey Kutoi
Furries Ruin Everything
#9 - 2015-02-18 03:28:18 UTC
Brumortateu Rhadoshm wrote:
How about some bonuses to shields in general and to capacitor size, to build on some Caldari strengths?

Caldari are efficient, so they could come up with better power grids/cpu grids, agility etc.

**** CPU is a caldari trait apparently
Dante Romanov
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-02-18 05:56:41 UTC
I might get flamed for this but oh well..

I wouldn't mind either Railguns or Missiles, but maybe some ECM bonus's, and i would like a 3rd defensive stat, like passive shield regen boost or active shield regen boost, i think based of the sketches we have seen so far an ECM boat would look beautiful, but i doubt it, but in all honesty i think it will be a Railgun platform, mainly do to the fact that it fits with the theme of these T3's.. Maybe Missiles (And i am hoping for them more) but the bonus would be smaller, you can't have missiles with a 66% range bonus.. That is 125km+ with Faction Launchers.. and that is more then 1200-1500 damage per volley then.. Maybe more, so yeah.. Money on the Rails, heart on the Missiles
Iyokus Patrouette
Noir.
The Network.
#11 - 2015-02-18 06:24:32 UTC
lol

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-02-18 10:30:46 UTC
Brumortateu Rhadoshm wrote:
How about some bonuses to shields in general and to capacitor size, to build on some Caldari strengths?

Caldari are efficient, so they could come up with better power grids/cpu grids, agility etc.

Maybe give them some drone bonuses, perhaps a new drone technology that allows it to use drones more efficiently, perhaps some kind of drone scripting that allows drones to have better tracking, better range, better speed as needed.

Since Caldari are the ultimate capitalists, perhaps tie that into it somehow, maybe some kind of remote freighter boost, planet colony boost, or damage bonuses against pos's and such.


Sounds like guristas.

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-02-18 10:54:42 UTC
I think ccp would pick hybrids for it.

Wonder what they offer for propulsion mode, velocity bonus or sig bonus while mwd. Or maybe warp speed bonus.

In regard of defence how about shield hp bonus or shield booster efficiency and cap requirement.

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Ares Desideratus
UNSAFE SPACE
#14 - 2015-02-18 14:43:02 UTC
It's going to get rail-gun bonuses (or blasters if you are a hipster) from the sniper mode, a shield resistance bonus from the defense mode, and probably a velocity bonus from the propulsion mode.
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#15 - 2015-02-18 18:12:42 UTC  |  Edited by: scorchlikeshiswhiskey
It won't get missiles because the Corax and SB's are missile boats, what we really need is another Naga-like rail platform to free up the Gallente hull to fit blasters and drones. And if you specced missiles because they're the Caldari primary... well you're SOL.
Anyways....
I would love to see it as a potent missile boat but I honestly don't expect it to be. If I was guessing, range mode will give it rail optimal, defensive might give it a resistance boost or possibly a shield boost amount, and I'm not sure about speed exactly.

Edit: I think everyone might be pleasantly surprised if they decide to make it dual-weapon bonused. Both at the same time would not, and should not, be viable but this would make for interesting possibilities and would set a precedent for mayne having the Gallente the same way.
Trey Kutoi
Furries Ruin Everything
#16 - 2015-02-18 19:23:54 UTC
if anything, the Minmatar D3 should have been the split weapon system
Lew Dicrous
4th Line
#17 - 2015-02-19 07:48:16 UTC
In staying with the naming theme, I hope it's called "The Chicken."

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Etocoreda Grey
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-02-19 09:37:10 UTC
I'd like it if the caldari dessie was an upgrade from my hookbill that used ROCKETS. Although i don't know if T3 dessie is really meant to fill that role. Worm and garmur are missle only.
Tiberius Rexius
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-02-19 10:46:42 UTC
My Guess on the coming Caldari destroyer is:

Highs: 7 6x guns 1 utility
Meds : 5
Lows : 3

defence bonus would be
% boost ammount
and shield resist % ammount

speed mode:
velocity and inertia like the confessor. tho id hope for velocity and warp speed.

sharpshootermode:
would be the same as the svipul giving it a optimal bonus and tracking buff

As for the weaponsystem its going to be hybrid for sure as CCP dosent understand missiles Roll
Would make the ship pretty well pointed to the mix of a hawk and the harpy and well ballanced vs the other t3 wile giving it some caldari uniqueness

However a ECM dessy from caldari would be unique especially if it had a nice bonus to ecm burst modules like a scorpion
swap one tank slot for 1 ecm burst slot with a bonus to range and jam strenght along with reduced cycle time and cap usage. Twisted
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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-02-19 11:22:34 UTC
defender bonused mode
passive shield tank mode
falcon mode


caling it now
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