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The TRUTH of Thera!
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Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#1 - 2015-02-16 04:49:28 UTC
Holoreel published 117.02.15
Eystur VI - Republic Justice Department Tribunal

Greetings, true brothers and sisters of the Minmatar. I am Aerinbiorn Haubogi, of Haubogi Cultural Resource Management.

As we all have been made aware, there have been major discoveries made by intrepid capsuleers recently. New, previously unknown wormholes have opened up to us, giving us a way into what has been called the Thera system. However, all could see that the treacherous Servant Sisters of EVE had made their claims before anyone else, having been well established there. We all know that they are hiding something at the great EVE Gate, and their refusal to share information is proof of their deceit. Can we not expect this same web of lies at Thera?

Brothers and Sisters, clansmen all, I plea with you to pursue these slaver-hounds, to drive their lies into the open. If they hide more of what may be the shared cultural heritage of our proud tribes, then there will be little left to show our descendents to come of their origins in the cosmos.

Thank you all. Be vigilant, be safe, and always remain true to the ancestors.


Following the end of transmission comes a commercial for a cheap Pator-based knockoff of Quafe.

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#2 - 2015-02-16 23:03:23 UTC
You know the Thukker are working with SoE, right?

-Eran
Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#3 - 2015-02-17 00:34:22 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
You know the Thukker are working with SoE, right?

-Eran


That is false. Blatantly false and an attack on the true Minmatar. There is no proof to back up this claim. No member of our proud race would dare bow to the liars of SoE. Show me a loyal, mark you a loyal, Thukker who would bow to them, and I will show you a conservative Gallentean.

I have here, in my possession, a document intercepted by a dear friend (may the Elders watch over him). In this document were several statements from someone claiming to be an agent in the employ of the SoE claiming that Thera had been in SoE possession for many years, and that they might know what these so-called Seekers are. We found this agent and persuaded him to talk, and though he denied everything said in the document or even knowing what we were talking about, and though he may not have looked exactly identical to the agent who made the statements, we are convinced that he was the same SoE slaver hound in the document recovered and that this is proof positive of SoE treachery.

Humanitarian? Our best interests at heart? Hardly.

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2015-02-17 00:39:51 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
You know the Thukker are working with SoE, right?

-Eran

I think the main point was the commercial...

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Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#5 - 2015-02-17 00:39:54 UTC
Evidence (real evidence, not "I am telling you I have the evidence but you can't see it for reasons") or get out.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

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Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#6 - 2015-02-17 00:44:23 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Evidence (real evidence, not "I am telling you I have the evidence but you can't see it for reasons") or get out.


Fine. Here. All should know the truth.

Holoreel sent to Kalaratiri at 12:44

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#7 - 2015-02-17 00:49:45 UTC
Aerinbiorn Haubogi wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
You know the Thukker are working with SoE, right?

-Eran


That is false. Blatantly false and an attack on the true Minmatar. There is no proof to back up this claim. No member of our proud race would dare bow to the liars of SoE. Show me a loyal, mark you a loyal, Thukker who would bow to them, and I will show you a conservative Gallentean.


The Matyrhan Lakat-Hro is in Thera outside one of the ruined stations. A Thukker contingent still works in Thera with the SoE. With that said, Thukker have a wide range of beliefs and I'm not saying all Thukker are working with SoE but there is at least one caravan that has.

SoE certainly have secrets and are probably somewhat responsible for these most recent shattered events but I don't think their goal is malicious....however I imagine if the ends justify the means they might turn a blind eye to a few people getting hurt here or there.

-Eran
Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#8 - 2015-02-17 01:00:23 UTC
That a Brutor would claim that about his fellow Minmatar brethren. Shameful.

If we were allowed to go there ourselves and investigate the matter, we could show you how wrong you are. As it is, the SoE took out an order against me and my firm with CONCORD, stipulating no further contact or, as they put it, harassment, and that we stay at least five systems away from any SoE outpost. Even this proves that they know that we know.

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#9 - 2015-02-17 01:07:14 UTC
I think there's something in that knockoff Quafe you're drinking that's messing with your head...

-Eran
Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#10 - 2015-02-17 01:12:29 UTC
Eran, I barely touch such beverages, if you can call them those. Though we may own substantial shares in Kwafe, that has in no way influenced my personal beliefs and certainly does not influence my views on the SoE. Kwafe may be the refreshing and (only) healthy alternative to Quafe, but that is NOT what is important here.

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2015-02-17 01:13:39 UTC
Aerinbiorn Haubogi wrote:
That a Brutor would claim that about his fellow Minmatar brethren. Shameful.

If we were allowed to go there ourselves and investigate the matter, we could show you how wrong you are. As it is, the SoE took out an order against me and my firm with CONCORD, stipulating no further contact or, as they put it, harassment, and that we stay at least five systems away from any SoE outpost. Even this proves that they know that we know.


I'd love to see them try and enforce that.

Also, that holoreel. Not sure why you sent that to me when you claimed to have a document, but it doesn't appear to prove anything you've said here.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#12 - 2015-02-17 01:20:13 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Aerinbiorn Haubogi wrote:
That a Brutor would claim that about his fellow Minmatar brethren. Shameful.

If we were allowed to go there ourselves and investigate the matter, we could show you how wrong you are. As it is, the SoE took out an order against me and my firm with CONCORD, stipulating no further contact or, as they put it, harassment, and that we stay at least five systems away from any SoE outpost. Even this proves that they know that we know.


I'd love to see them try and enforce that.

Also, that holoreel. Not sure why you sent that to me when you claimed to have a document, but it doesn't appear to prove anything you've said here.


Why don't you take another look at the holoreel. Pour yourself a cold Kwafe, relax, and watch it. You'll see that we are right.

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2015-02-17 02:11:55 UTC
Aerinbiorn Haubogi wrote:
Pour yourself a cold Kwafe, relax, and watch it.

... this sounds kind of like Starsi.

... same not-Quafe-ness. Same faint flavor of futility....

Is Starsi still around? "Tastes like revenge?"

....

Um, also, can someone maybe give me a short explanation on "Thera"?

I remember facts on a lot of topics, but I don't remember that.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#14 - 2015-02-17 02:47:06 UTC
Short explanation - Thera is a system in a previously unknown (to most of us) area of j-space. It's been known to SoE for years however, and they even managed to establish 9 known stations in system, 5 of which were destroyed in what appears to be something similar to the Seyllin event.

The system also has some properties that haven't been seen elsewhere in space, such as having 12 "static" wormholes and many other "roaming" entrances, often putting the count of wormholes around 20 (18 connections at time of this writing).

Also, welcome back Ms. Jenneth.

-Eran
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-02-17 06:30:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Aerinbiorn Haubogi wrote:
Pour yourself a cold Kwafe, relax, and watch it.

... this sounds kind of like Starsi.

... same not-Quafe-ness. Same faint flavor of futility....

Is Starsi still around? "Tastes like revenge?"

....

Um, also, can someone maybe give me a short explanation on "Thera"?

I remember facts on a lot of topics, but I don't remember that.


Starsi is still around, at least in Federation space, more or less unchanged.

Also the Thukkers are NOT a unified force. Every so often they will band together for a common goal but otherwise, individual caravans will branch out and do their own thing.

Each caravan is a nation unto itself, with their own beliefs, world views and way of life. The only things in common are shared ancestries, traditions and some cultural norms. Everything else goes. Thukkers are pragmatics. They will do anything that will yield maximised benefits to the caravan. That means working alongside the SOE to procure advanced materials from wormhole space if they have to. At least one of the caravans will.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has been taking propaganda from some pro-Matari extremist faction at face value.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#16 - 2015-02-19 22:03:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
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Candi LeMew
Division 13
#17 - 2015-02-20 12:29:55 UTC
Oh, I'll tell you the truth of Thera if you like.

It ain't pretty though ...


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Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#18 - 2015-02-20 12:39:27 UTC
Candi LeMew wrote:
Oh, I'll tell you the truth of Thera if you like.

It ain't pretty though ...




I have since recanted my previous statements against the Servant Sisters of EVE, though not my statements regarding those who would oppress and destroy the true Minmatar.

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#19 - 2015-02-20 16:12:45 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Also the Thukkers are NOT a unified force. Every so often they will band together for a common goal but otherwise, individual caravans will branch out and do their own thing.

Each caravan is a nation unto itself, with their own beliefs, world views and way of life. The only things in common are shared ancestries, traditions and some cultural norms. Everything else goes. Thukkers are pragmatics. They will do anything that will yield maximised benefits to the caravan. That means working alongside the SOE to procure advanced materials from wormhole space if they have to. At least one of the caravans will.


This reads almost exactly like how the Jove operate. As well as SoE. Whether you call them enclaves, kitzes, or caravans, they all seem to have the same socio-political structure. So it might makes sense if some of them are working together.

It would also make sense if some of them disagreed on this level of cooperation, and are keeping a vigilant eye on things.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY