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Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#121 - 2011-12-01 22:28:12 UTC
Ol Gregg wrote:
Hey, Low/Null Morons..

Once CCP manages to chase off all the high-sec carebears (Who, I might add, you used to be just like. You weren't born in null.) then they'll lose even more revenue than their horrible management already has.

Not to mention, you'll be forced to actually shoot each other instead of setting everything blue before it has the slightest chance of pressing F1.

Good luck recruiting when the playerbase goes down the tubes and when you can't supply yourself because you're too elitist to mine.

Jerkfaces.

This guy is highly upset.

Awwww

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
Killie
Space Buddies
#122 - 2011-12-01 22:31:09 UTC
honestly there will still be a high demand for PI goods, and the prices are temporarily messed up and will stabilize. Your PI goods prices are going to go through the roof because of the tax cost. The people willing to invest in a POCO still have to cover costs of actually CREATING that expensive item, and factor in coverage for their losses, which will probably be pretty much in line with your tax rate. Give it a week and watch the prices soar. PI in high sec ISN'T DEAD.
Ol Gregg
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2011-12-01 22:31:15 UTC
Vincent Gaines wrote:

This guy is highly upset.

Awwww


Why would I be upset? I don't pay to play this terrible game.

Look at all the ****s I give.
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#124 - 2011-12-01 22:33:30 UTC
leavwiz wrote:


i had avoided naming other mmo's in my post, but in response to your question, I play vanguard (all my primary characters are crafters and diplos)
It is a game for mature players that dont expect to make max level in a matter of weeks. great community as well.


Seriously, good luck.

I think I'll give Vanguard a look.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#125 - 2011-12-01 22:34:17 UTC
Just one point to make.

The OP has a valid complaint, actually. Eve, since it is an MMO, does not cater to a solo player.

However, to fix this, you would need to remove the ability for groups to work together for a greater reward.

So all you're really saying, is that playing solo in an MMO is non-optimal.

Working as intended.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Ol Gregg
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2011-12-01 22:42:40 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Just one point to make.

The OP has a valid complaint, actually. Eve, since it is an MMO, does not cater to a solo player.

However, to fix this, you would need to remove the ability for groups to work together for a greater reward.

So all you're really saying, is that playing solo in an MMO is non-optimal.

Working as intended.


Actually, the OP was making an acute point about everything wrong with EVE.

If you don't want to blob, you're not welcome here.

If you don't want to have to put up with retards on voice-comms so that you can have a huge fleet to gank your opponent, you're not welcome here.

What the OP actually stated was that people are penalized for being happy with being a small, efficient corporation. And I agree with him.

I find absolutely zero skill in the blob mentality of EVE anymore, and the rare skilled pilot eventually is pulled into the Zerg, with a select few of course excluded from this generalization.


For some of us, EVE was a place to actually test our skills in combat. There's nothing more fun than going in against a mining fleet with protection alone, taking on six ships, and STILL managing to blow up three of their ships and escape.
I would imagine industrialists feel the same when they pull off something magical despite working with a "just friends" crew.

As EVE continues to be pushed on towards spaceblob, and a numbers game, it loses it's character for a lot of those players.

But that's okay, right? That some people lose the part of the game that they loved. Just ask Faction Warfare.
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#127 - 2011-12-01 22:53:03 UTC
I am a fairly new player (around 7 months old) and I am still perfectly able to play solo. Just having some trouble finding a good first corp to have fun with. I recommend that you do some missioning or high-sec exploring. If you got the balls you can try some low-sec exploring. And if you got some more balls.... attack everything you see in low-sec or try bombing some ratters in null with a SB.

Either way... stop your bitching and learn the game because there are allot of opportunities to be made riding solo!Big smile

Coming from a semi-drunk newbie.... Peace out!Big smile

[i]~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~   ~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~[/i]
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#128 - 2011-12-01 22:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
I just have to get something off my chest.

When crucible came out I was seriously considering to end my industrial career and move to low sec to spend the rest of my time blowing stuff up.
And this was not because of the PI change.
It was because of the forum threads other indusrialists started, whining about the changes.
I don't like you.
I don't want to be like you.
I don't want people to think that I am like you.
I feel embarassed to be an industrialist.

OK, now I just decided to HTFU and no longer care what other manufacturers/inventors/traders say on the forum.
I will keep selling evil gadgets to evil people and rejoice at the carnage.
And then I will sell harmless stuff to harmless people that just happened to lose their precious ships and want new ones.
And then again even biggger guns.
And then more mining ships.

I like Eve, no matter what you people say or do.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#129 - 2011-12-01 22:59:10 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Just one point to make.

The OP has a valid complaint, actually. Eve, since it is an MMO, does not cater to a solo player.

However, to fix this, you would need to remove the ability for groups to work together for a greater reward.

So all you're really saying, is that playing solo in an MMO is non-optimal.

Working as intended.


Explain Chribbas success then.

My little industry alt is doing just fine solo too.
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2011-12-01 23:00:32 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Zions Child wrote:
See, the principal problem with your statement is in the "limited profit potential." Sure, when you have hundred of billions profit is rather limited (unless you can get your hand on a T2 BPO, aka the isk blueprints), but otherwise profits in hi-sec are fantastic when you actually have some trading skill.


Confirming you know nothing about the T2 Manufacturing process


Expecting an SMA member to know anything about Eve other than dieing in a drake is laughable.
Ometheos Oribili
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2011-12-01 23:00:52 UTC
Ol Gregg wrote:

Good luck recruiting when the playerbase goes down the tubes and when you can't supply yourself because you're too elitist to mine.


When that happens, watch how quickly a thousand 10-hour heroes in a thousand Navitii show up in every belt in highsec to take advantage of the fact that Trit's hit 5 per at Jita. The free market at work!

God, I'm usually not ashamed to be an Empire mission-running carebear pubbie, but every time a thread like this goes up I can see why people raise up the black flag and start collecting tears. If EVE isn't for you, at least have the dignity to close out your account and go play Sins of a Solar Empire or something without giving the whole forums a written invitation to can haz your stuffz.

People who are planning to quit and are just clearing out inventory to PLEX out a few more months: serious question. Why bother? Your ISKies and T2 BPOs and faction-fit shiny BSs are just pixels and database entries, and you don't get a prize for canceling your sub with an empty wallet. If you're not having fun, or working towards the ability to have fun later, why are you playing? Presumably there are better things you could be doing with your time. It's a game ffs.

/rant
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2011-12-01 23:02:17 UTC
Keep quitting, more people like you will increase my own margins.

I lied :o
Ol Gregg
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#133 - 2011-12-01 23:09:02 UTC
Drew Solaert wrote:
Keep quitting, more people like you will increase my own margins.


I cannot wait for the day when EVE continues to bleed subscribers and eventually has to launch ridiculous offers to try to lure new players in so that they don't have to s***can the game, along with your profit margins..

Oh, wait. That's today..
Chelone
Outside The Asylum
#134 - 2011-12-01 23:09:43 UTC
If you ever think about coming back, just look at the many examples of human trash that posted in this thread, and know that leaving was the right decision.

Yep, pirates. Let's kick out all the carebears. !@%$ing braindead.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#135 - 2011-12-01 23:13:02 UTC
leavwiz wrote:
message clearly received. High sec players that are soloists or in small corps are not wanted.

As the last remaining player in my once fun and thriving corp, I too will be moving on to an mmo where production and harvesting are operational spheres that dont require subjecting yourself to gank happy pvp'ers

I have taken down the POS with its construction and research bays
I have hauled our stuff to Jita and sold it at buy prices (so no you cant have my stuff)
I will not bother to visit my PI sites again as launch taxes now exceed the market value of the goods from my humble , low efficiency high sec planets.

When my plex runs out you can add me to the growing statistic of casual players that find no game value in EVE anymore.

perhaps i should turn on my CQ option again to remind me how well dev resources were spent on creating a login lagfest, so I wont wax sentimental about rejoining the game.

To those who I have been able to assist with materials and ships, perhaps our paths will cross again in the mmo's we discussed. in the meantime, fly safe. have fun
leavwiz


OH NO!!! YOU'RE LEAVING?!?! I'm going to thoroughly miss your... ermm...
...
...
Sorry but who are you and what are you angry about?
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#136 - 2011-12-01 23:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Heimdallofasgard
Edit: Double post (-.-)

ccp plz fix forums :/ tx
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#137 - 2011-12-01 23:16:23 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Just one point to make.

The OP has a valid complaint, actually. Eve, since it is an MMO, does not cater to a solo player.

However, to fix this, you would need to remove the ability for groups to work together for a greater reward.

So all you're really saying, is that playing solo in an MMO is non-optimal.

Working as intended.


Explain Chribbas success then.

My little industry alt is doing just fine solo too.


Chribba's put months if not years of man hours into developing tools for the community... he's done more interaction with the community than anyone else probably ever will do in this game for as long as it exists.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#138 - 2011-12-01 23:24:16 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Just one point to make.

The OP has a valid complaint, actually. Eve, since it is an MMO, does not cater to a solo player.

However, to fix this, you would need to remove the ability for groups to work together for a greater reward.

So all you're really saying, is that playing solo in an MMO is non-optimal.

Working as intended.


Explain Chribbas success then.

My little industry alt is doing just fine solo too.


Non-optimal != impossible.

n.b. - who owns Chribba's station, again?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#139 - 2011-12-01 23:27:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Ol Gregg wrote:
Actually, the OP was making an acute point about everything wrong with EVE.

No, he wasn't.
He was whining his profit margins are lower because of a change introduced that he doesn't understand, that will actually balance out, possibly in his favour if a lot of other idiots quit doing PI this week, too.

The "OMG ITS ALL BLOBS!!" retort is just a weak, apologetic excuse for not even trying.

Well done, anonymous forum alt #61223, for being too risk averse to even try.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Herrington Vance
Doomheim
#140 - 2011-12-01 23:56:14 UTC
Ol Gregg wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
Keep quitting, more people like you will increase my own margins.


I cannot wait for the day when EVE continues to bleed subscribers and eventually has to launch ridiculous offers to try to lure new players in so that they don't have to s***can the game, along with your profit margins..

Oh, wait. That's today..


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