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Please Fix The Omen Hull
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#21 - 2015-02-14 19:12:28 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Soooo... basically what you are saying is...

"Because I do not like it, it should be changed. To hell with what other people think."

While I try to respect others opinions (most of the time) I can only respond with this; Get over yourself.

So basically what you're saying is,

"Because I am fine with the Omen as it is, it should not be changed. To hell with what other people think."

While I respect your opinion, I can only respond with this: GTFO

And so we now we reach an impasse.

I guess it just comes down to popularity at this point. And I'm seeing more posts in support of the "tumor" on the Omen. Blink

How did you Veterans start?
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-02-14 19:20:04 UTC
I'm not against the tumor. I believe all ships have the right to have a tumor if they want.

It's just that I wish this one looked less like a miniature Omen, or a Fleet Issue Impairor, clinging precariously to the sides of the sleek hull of the Omen by the strength of a drone bay umbilicus, and more like just a little drone bay on the side.

Speaking of which, the thing doesn't actually look anything like a drone bay. It really looks more like an Impairor that got stuck to the side of the Omen with Lego or something. Why not get rid of this non-sense drone bay and replace it with an actual bay, for the drones.

It is seriously a crap ship feature at the moment. The Omen is almost a good looking ship.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#23 - 2015-02-14 19:50:34 UTC
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-02-14 21:59:43 UTC
Maybe they could put another tumor from opposite side and make it looks more balanced, i wonder how heavy this tumor is. Dors it make any impact to agil or veloc of the ship or maybe inertia.

Thank's for bringing this up.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#25 - 2015-02-14 22:02:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Let me be more blunt:

I'm tired of people trying to strip the character from every ship in the game - including those which are widely considered good - simply because they don't have "hollywood-style" designs.

Fly a different ship or be quiet.
Azazel The Misanthrope
Oblivion's Pendulum
Top Tier
#26 - 2015-02-14 22:07:13 UTC
Why does everything always need to be symmetrical? It would be chool if the Omen got an overhaul, but I like the tumor. I like asymmetry. Like this if you like asymmetry.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-02-14 22:10:26 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Maybe they could put another tumor from opposite side and make it looks more balanced, i wonder how heavy this tumor is. Dors it make any impact to agil or veloc of the ship or maybe inertia.

Thank's for bringing this up.

If the drone-bay-suitcase hanging off the side of the Omen had a negative effect on the velocity or agility of the Omen, it would no doubt be very unwise to build yet another drone-bay suitcase on the opposite side of the ship. In fact it would make a lot of sense in this situation to either strip the drone-bay suitcase away completely, or give it a major overhaul to improve performance.

Yet another great reason to fix the drone-bay suitcase that hangs off of the side of the Omen.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-02-14 22:13:13 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Let me be more blunt:

I'm tired of people trying to strip the character from every ship in the game - including those which are widely considered good - simply because they don't have "hollywood-style" designs.

Fly a different ship or be quiet.

Why do you think that stripping, or overhauling the drone-bay suitcase hanging off the side of the Omen, would take the character away from the ship class?

The drone-bay suitcase doesn't have to be completely stripped away, but it can be remodeled to look more like an actual drone-bay and less like someone just duct taped an Impairor to the side of the ship.

Because it really looks stupid the way it is right now. It's like a big lizard carrying a suitcase or something. It's really weird, the drone-bay, I mean, it's just dumb looking. And it actually looks nothing like a drone-bay.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-02-14 22:16:00 UTC
I honestly always thought that drone bays are inside of the ship Shocked

Looks like amamrian engineers were lazy to make it more visiual and technical looks like.

They would deffinatelly will go to hell.

If you don't like it from right side of the ship how about to put it above or under would it make looks better for you?

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2015-02-14 22:16:33 UTC
Azazel The Misanthrope wrote:
Why does everything always need to be symmetrical? It would be chool if the Omen got an overhaul, but I like the tumor. I like asymmetry. Like this if you like asymmetry.

I agree.

That's why there is nothing wrong with asymmetry. If anyone is picky about ships based on symmetry, or asymmetry, that's a pretty narrow view of things, really a lot of ships that are asymmetrical are some of the best looking ships in the game.

It's not the fact that the Omen is asymmetrical that makes it ugly. It's just the drone-bay on the side that looks like someone stapled an Impairor to the side of the ship.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2015-02-14 22:19:36 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
I honestly always thought that drone bays are inside of the ship Shocked

Looks like amamrian engineers were lazy to make it more visiual and technical looks like.

They would deffinatelly will go to hell.

If you don't like it from right side of the ship how about to put it above or under would it make looks better for you?

I don't like to hide from the ship or hide it from view. It is what it is. But I'm pretty sure a lot of people would actually agree with what I'm saying if they just actually thought about it, and looked the the drone bay on the side of the Omen. I'm not even sure if it's supposed to be a drone bay. I have no idea what it's supposed to be. But if it's a drone bay, then it's a really dumb looking drone bay. If it's an escape pod, it's a really dumb looking escape pod.

Whatever it is, it looks really stupid.

It doesn't even look like anything. It literally looks like someone just attached an Impairor to it.
Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2015-02-16 01:16:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Van Beyus
Ares Desideratus wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
I honestly always thought that drone bays are inside of the ship Shocked

Looks like amamrian engineers were lazy to make it more visiual and technical looks like.

They would deffinatelly will go to hell.

If you don't like it from right side of the ship how about to put it above or under would it make looks better for you?

I don't like to hide from the ship or hide it from view. It is what it is. But I'm pretty sure a lot of people would actually agree with what I'm saying if they just actually thought about it, and looked the the drone bay on the side of the Omen. I'm not even sure if it's supposed to be a drone bay. I have no idea what it's supposed to be. But if it's a drone bay, then it's a really dumb looking drone bay. If it's an escape pod, it's a really dumb looking escape pod.

Whatever it is, it looks really stupid.

It doesn't even look like anything. It literally looks like someone just attached an Impairor to it.
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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#33 - 2015-02-16 01:43:32 UTC
I vote CCP puts a second tumour on the Omen. Then it'll be symmetric.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#34 - 2015-02-16 01:46:46 UTC
Making esthetic changes to ships... In my opinion that is the least productive use of dev time especially when most people either like the design or don't care.

I personally wouldn't mind ships never upgrading skins/models again.

Gameplay>stuff>graphics

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Sylveria Relden
#35 - 2015-02-16 02:03:34 UTC
@OP This is one hull I'd totally agree with you on for aesthetic reasons. I've loved the Omen's sleek lines and curves, but the tumor looking thing was always a serious eyesore.

I still fly them on occasion- but I'd still prefer the thing on the side to be removed. I was actually glad when they remodeled the Crucifier hull as well, because I avoided them like the plague regardless of their functionality on the basis of aesthetics alone.

For those who argue "aesthetics shouldn't matter", perhaps you really should just be looking at Microsoft Excel and imagining you're shooting at other spaceships, then. The reality is there's models in the game, and if you're going to bother developing models you may as well take the time to make them look good.

TL;DR If you didn't read the entire post perhaps you're probably ADHD. (seek help)
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2015-02-16 03:33:02 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Making esthetic changes to ships... In my opinion that is the least productive use of dev time especially when most people either like the design or don't care.

I personally wouldn't mind ships never upgrading skins/models again.

Gameplay>stuff>graphics

That's a fair enough point.

Still I don't know that it would take a lot of developer time to fix up a few of these hulls. I understand the need for a practical application of developer resources but I don't think to fix up some of these ship hulls that are in need of attention would take up too much of their time.
Jeaile
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-02-16 03:50:52 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Making esthetic changes to ships... In my opinion that is the least productive use of dev time especially when most people either like the design or don't care.

I personally wouldn't mind ships never upgrading skins/models again.

Gameplay>stuff>graphics


Yeah, because the art team will start programming gameplay won't they.....

Dumb ****
Jeaile
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2015-02-16 03:53:06 UTC
OP, appreciate your opinion, but the "tumour" is part of the Omen, leave it alone.
Claud Tiberius
#39 - 2015-02-16 04:49:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Claud Tiberius
The Omen is bit of a boring looking ship, it could use a remodel. Get some inspiration from the Crucifier, Coercer and Apoc.

Arya Regnar wrote:
Making esthetic changes to ships... In my opinion that is the least productive use of dev time especially when most people either like the design or don't care.

I personally wouldn't mind ships never upgrading skins/models again.

Gameplay>stuff>graphics


Graphics is very important - It adds to immersion, supports the physics and animations, which improve the game play.

Without it, we may as well just stare at the grids, crosses and circles exchanging numbers.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2015-02-16 04:53:56 UTC
Jeaile wrote:
OP, appreciate your opinion, but the "tumour" is part of the Omen, leave it alone.

Why? Just because it's a part of the Omen, doesn't mean it has to be left that way. It's ugly as ****.