Player Features and Ideas Discussion

-1, especially for suggesting removing local for the 500th time. use the search function \o/

And yet, other than your failed idea on a cloaky counter (see beloww) you have offered no ideas on how to handle the problem of cloaked ships, or those that are immune to D-scan.

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If you would spend time and read the devs posts and the dev blogs it is clear that they intend for cloaked ships to be completely invisible. Not by visual means, not by d-scan and not by probes leaving only the pilots name in local as your only way of identifying that a cloaked ship may be in the system.. The very presence of this cloak counter idea in game clearly defeats the devs intention that NO one should know where a cloaked ship is and in fact if there is even one in the system.


Now the real reasons why I say -1 to your no local idea.
Local is an excellent place to have a brief convo with other players in a chance encounter, it is quick, does not require the time to invite someone to a private chat and it leaves open the chance for others in the system to read and become interested in something that is going on which could lead to even more players being involved.

Then you have all the scammers that populate local in places like Jita, Amarr etc The sheer creativity of these people and the conversations that come up around them can be a source of considerable amusement, with local gone those who enjoy this ever changing aspect of the game would have it stripped away.

Another thing that would be lost is the conversations between a ganker and his target. Not only can these be amusing to read but they can and often do contain valuable information for others who take the time to read them. The old proverb of lose lips sinks ships did not come about for nothing. But then the subtle art of discerning valuable information from these types of conversations may be lost to you.

Since you can simply minimize local to you task bar and not have to deal with it I say -1 to your bad idea.
I do realize that local has a really bad habit of popping up every-time you jump through a gate and I would fully support a change to the client that would prevent this.

this.

with the fact you can have a recon in space which wont be on dscan or something cloaked orbiting you at 15km, decloaks, points and before you know it you have a blops fleet on top of you before you have any time to do anything

no local, recons not appearing on dscan, covert cynos, and the ability to have a fleet of major dps bombers and blops on you without any warning from 5 jumps away just makes everything overpowered to the max and 100% risk free invisibility, alot will leave null if this change ever comes in because whats the point?

All I can see as "idea" is a proposal of someone who wants to have an automatic dscanner because he is annoyed pressing it manually all the time. The idea is covered/hidden in a proposed "change nullsec" idea but actually should only be a buff for wh-space.

having a pilot name gives you access to their eve info in game. that's their sec status, what corp/alliance they are in, corp history and some insight to their personality from their bio (if they have one). This isn't even considering what Zkillboards might have on them, so there is that too.

plus it helps to know if they are just neuts or have blue/red/wartarget status.


if the Dscan can provide that then maybe, but let's make sure you can right click>pilot info.

There is another issue i don't think you wrote about: if you remove local, how does one communicate in the system?

your intransigence and unwillingness to compromise on the ones that aren't as good don't do you any favors.

So what about this...?

What if the new D-scan showed pilot name and ship type just like the overview, but from far away?

This still has a lot of local, but even this I would PAY MONEY for, compared to the 10+ year old mistake that is Local chat.

I strongly feel that d-scan should be automatic.

I also think the pilot should be able to switch it off. When on it should inform others of your presence whether they have activated active scanning or not - they see the radar signal emitted from your ship. Why wouldn't they?

This way, miners would not need local, because:

* if a pirate visits your system and does not switch on d-scan, you will not see him and he will not see you - so you're safe!

* if a pirate visits your system and switches on d-scan, he will see you and you will see him - so you're safe!

* If you are running d-scan, you're a noisy (em-wise) little spaceship. You'll see people arriving and they'll see you.

D-scan should have a long range, but become less reliable at range - as the return signals become fainter and more confused.

If you do that, you get intuitive information about the distance, bearing and heading of your adversary.

Is it just me, or does this not just seem obvious, simple and... you know... realistic?