Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ello ladies and gents.

Idea - Allow corporations to "buyout" overall control of 1 ihub in their militias controlled systems of their war zone.
Allow CEO/Directors etc of this corp to do things like :-
> turn off gate guns/make them not shoot their corp when aggression neuts
> Modify type and number of NPC rats in "outpost" regular re-spawning plexes
> Alter station service costs for corp/alliance/blues in system
> Possibilities for an epic amount of extras here
> Detail of how much LP to control system is of course important


To facilitate this add a LP wallet to corp wallets for FW corps.
Allow LP to be taxed at either the same or different rate to base corp tax.

My other idea.
Remove mission from FW.
Change all plexing LP pay outs to current T2 amounts.
Booster LP payouts for kills by 200-300% *
* Be careful that this isnt broken and people can just kill alts to print LP

Also remove cross warzone plexing. Amarr/Minne Pilots can only run plex timers in their warzone, and vice versa for Cal/Gal.


Thoughts/opinions/feedback/suggestions.

Of course these are all just ideas that need debating, discussing and adding to/removing but I do genuinely think that both changes would benefit FW massively.

* This is just a skeleton post of ideas to avoid wall of text, will provide more fleshed out versions at a later date *

In regards to the buyout, just make it mini-NS and have a deployable that grants you "control" over the FW forces in that system. If hostiles, or hell, even another friendly corp that wants control, destroy it, you lose control.

Ooh I like these ideas mate!!

+1


Hate fw missions anyway havent done a singe one even when we were in T5 lol. :)

Too bad we are not getting any killmail for supporting ideas on forum... All of my corpmates would've been here already. :) I let them know tho... :D

Why is LP corp tax not there?

Some of these are nice.

EDIT: DERP its so late I didnt see.

Cheers for the input Nikolai.

All good views.

Main point of contention I see with yours in the plex modifier suggestion as you want it to be done by players.

I envisage plexes in HQ systems requiring a group of, lets say 5/6 minimum dudes, to run, requiring some form of logi to tank, and reasonable DPS, with the need to "tackle" rats.

This encourages group play and makes the groups that do come field a PvP looking gang thus giving the better chance of a fight.

I am very aware of the problem of turning plexing into something of a grind vs NPCs rather than hold the field vs hostile players. Perhaps a good way of avoiding this is that if when a pilots from different FW sides are in the plex the NPCs go inactive and plex timer stops? This would stop the NPCs from ruining a fight and also avoid abuse of an alt in other militia being used to break the NPCs AI.

I am 100% with you on the keeping it away from player placed structures and based upon plexing as they are a key mechanic in FW space restricting fights in way no other space has.

Keep the discussion going everyone, the more input we have the more I can go and work with when I write up more detailed information for these ideas.

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DnG base out of Egglehende? *facepalms* Guys you control 86% of the warzone and you base out of the last resort Amarr fallback system? Have some self respect!

Regardless of that I agree that things can be done with the sovereignty system to improve life in the warzone. Although DnG would have to move INTO it to receive the benefits...

How about removing all system bonuses from neutrals? Why should they get benefits for not contributing?

'Buying' an I-HUB for a corp would be good, although what you then allow corps to do with that enhanced control would have to be carefully thought through. You don't want enemy militia alts creating a corp in your militia - buying a system and then turning off all defences to make system flipping easier. I can also see farmers abusing such a system.

If you were to de-link the militias it would be fun to expand the war to all factions and put direct links between the warzones although losing access to more high sec may be annoying.

I agree the current system bonuses are not worth much.

One bonus I would like to see if the 'owning' corp or alliance can dictate docking rights to system stations - pirates GTFO :)

But yeah nice thoughts in principle...

BIG LIKE Varrinox!

i would like to see some form of passive defense bonus when the system is fully upgraded. 1% auto-decontesting per day or so, not too much. (only active when system is below a certain percentage)

less decontesting in inactive systems means more time to contest active systems.

and i would also spend lp to reset timers in plexes if the contester runs away. (e.g new feature of the FW beacon).

CCP's typical response to timer resets or FW topics in genaral.

*FW missions* are not inherently bad. It is their Solo focused LP gains that are much higher, thus much better, than plexing that drives pilots into the easiest mode of running them cheaply, more safely, with the shortest time in skill investment = Bombers. What are bombers? What are t3's? I might be blowing steam by this point, but my idea to bring balance to FW missions is to restrict t2 and t3 hulls from entering the mission complex acceleration gate. An easy, overnight, and overwhelming fix.

*Defensive plexing* can be balanced out by nerfing the payout and applying an automated donation TOWARDS the iHub, much in the same way that offensive plexing vamps LP away from it. This will remove the terribly sorry LP gained from low contested Dplexing of an important system by giving it a secondary award towards system level (aside from defensive LP gains) and avoid any hassle in trying to introduce a gimmicky passive de-contestation mechanic that could possibly lead to an invincible fortress. Again, this does nothing for the plague of stabbed d-plexing currently, but dual-timers at least can be a temporary solution, aside from the nerfed income, that will enable agressors to practice LP denial tactics. At least until we figure out a better way to go about changes that can be threaded into the lore, and not just for the game's sake.

*PVP payouts* could be accumulated in some kind of pilot journal where you can be rewarded, much like the R&D Agents passive LP, but that you be paid in enemy navy tags of your choice by the balance of your killing blows with points based on ship type and tech lvl. Please remember we still loot the carcasses even today; pvp isk is currently not bad. Also, perhaps give us points for killing pirate players, dependant on their sec status on the time of the kill? To buy sec tags perhaps? Maybe this could just be a Concord thing across all New Eden?

*System Upgrades* could possibly involve permanent cyno-jamming @lvl5? Leave the rats. A system that is inhabited should be actively defended. Station ship repair costs are currently in effect, as are tower fuel cost reductions as well, if i'm not mistaken. Also, our bonuses to faction standing already helps us in refining efficiency, but maybe it can receive a slight boost to encourage low-sec industrial ventures? People constantly undermine the strong arm of a production capable FW entity.