Ships & Modules

Hello fellow players!

I've come to the point where I can buy a freighter. I am considering two options - Charon or Providence.

I dunno which one to choose. I've already read a bunch of articles 'bout freighters and made some calculations in EFT but what I want to know is which one of them is going to withstand more beating before she eventually goes down in flames.

Charon has greater shield which regenerates itself over time, thus being able to accept more damage. As we know, you do not have to repair your shield for ISK, just dock into the station and voila.

Providence has smaller shield, but much greater armor. BUT when armor gets damaged you can't repair it on your own for free unless you have a friend or alt with remote armor repairer.

What are the odds of survivng a gank?
Let's say you survived one. Charon's shield would withstand much more beating than Providence's would.
Let's say you were dealt 50.000 DMG.
That would left Charon with some shield left, but Providence would suffer around 37k armor damage, which would have to be repaired in station for large amount of ISK or with a help of the above mentioned "friends".

Hope I made myself clear :) English is not my first language.

So which one would you go for taking above into consideration?

Cheers!
JV

Thank you for your reply.

I know that Providence looks best not only to me ;) but what bothers me is her shield. 12500 is not much and it regenerates much slower to Charon's (almost 5 times). According to EFT Charon can regen 49hp/s, Providence only 10hp/s. Does it make such a difference in Eve world situation?

PS. I've already checked all the variants of fittings with Adaptive Nano Plating II and Reinforced Bulkheads II. Providence has more EHP, but that shield...

Thanks Loyd. I guess I will go with the Providence beauty then. It's faster and has more EHP than Charon. Maybe one day I'll get myself Charon as well.

Cheers!

my charon pilot instead flys a rapier to move my providence pilot around. that said I can't honestly remember the last time I even undocked in a freighter, I should probably just move that to jita to sell...

Thank you all for your contribution. I really appreciate it.

Just go myself the Providence. Hope she will serve me well.
I figured out that she will benefit most from fitting 3 Adaptive Nano Platings II or 2 ANP II and one Expanded Cargohold II.

Is it worth grinding Armor Compensations to level V? EFT shows that Freighters have less EHP when these skills are trained to V than when to IV. Why is that?

In fact, sometimes you do:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1w5clv/never_give_up_tale_of_a_freighter/

Well, he had lost his freighter, but in the end he won.

if you are in the process of being ganked, 50hp/s is peanuts and will not matter.

1) because that happens so rarely it just don't matters.
2) Exactly, but this can be the case for Expanded Cargohold fitted Ships as well. A single Tornado will never plop them.
3) This has nothing to do with the tank. It's a matter of brain.
4) Yes, I will do so. Because hauling around Tritanium and low value minerals is seldomly breaking 1.5B ISK and each of this transports gives me more profit the more cargo I have.



A very nice story, but he lost 230M ISK or so (what's insurance fee for an Obelisk, 80M ISK?). "He won" really matters from your perspective :) What he defintely won is experience and well done with buying a second Fenrir! But even if you count this a win, what is the reason for you, that he won? Not the Freighters EHP, but his ALT with the webs! That was the crux of the matter!

In addition this happened before freighters were patched. Check their killboard. They immediately stopped when Kronos was announce with details Why? Because you can now even tank Charons much higher than before.

Either you fly Obelisk or Charon. If somebody finds you worth to gank, they will gank you, but when I haul more expensive stuff (nowadays due to allowed hyperdunking not more than 2B ISK on a bulkhead freighter) I don't do it without Bulkheads and break 303k omni EHP even on a Charon is quite costly. If somebody can break this, they can break 347 omni EHP on a Providence as well.

Don't get me wrong. I totally recommend to fly the freighter you want to fly for what reason ever, but the sole EHP on a freighter is not what will safe your ass in the most situations where somebody wants to gank you! If you value more the look, take the Providence. if you value EHP, take the Obelisk, if you value space, take the Charon and if "speed" is what you are looking for then buy yourself a Fenrir. But just fit your freighter according to your cargo and just haul value matching with your current fitting!!
I fly Charons (yes plural, but not ganked, but on several alts) for years now and it was only one time somebody tried to gank me, but not in a Charon. I was sitting in a Blockade Runner and he tried to alpha me while being afk (of course had no cargo).

@Joycelyn: Most EHP on a Providence you get from Bulkheads, not ANPs! But I don't know what you meant with "most benefit from". :)

with A-type deadspace platings you have on a standard providence ALL V 338k omni EHP, with bulkheads 347k omni EHP

With a full slave set this is different, but it's a nice investment in additon, but is probably the best tank you can have as most people would not expect or can scan that kind of tank

But nowadays with Hyperdunking it isn't only a matter of chars anymore, it's more a matter of time, so even 462k EHP against Antimatter may not be enough. And the above kill just showed, that code just wanted to make an example of that even a max tanked Providence can not resist. But we all know that. I usually cross Uedama 2x per day at the minimum in Charons and never had an issue so far, but for sure one day I will be on the list as well.

What I meant by saying "most benefit from" was that Providence will benefit more from 2 Adaptive Nano Platings II and one Expanded Cargohold II than 2 Reinforced Bulkheads II and one Exp Cargohold II taking into consoderation Armor-Cargo ratio.

With 2 ANP II and Exp Cargo II
EHP: 242k
Cargo: 665k

with 2 Rein Bulks II and Exp Cargo II
EHP: 259k
Cargo: 527k

so for just 17k ehp less I get 138k more cargo space. In case I need to haul more stuff.

Anywas, it goes without saying the most tank I will get from 3 Reinforced Bulks II and most cargo from 3 Exp Cargos II. But when I take Armor-Cargo ratio into consideration I think this is the way to go.

This is what I came up with:
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