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Ion Udan
Pulsar.
#41 - 2015-02-10 10:17:04 UTC
Morally Gray wrote:
Ion Udan wrote:


Removing someone from their home because you want that system for yourself, is quite often done, Mags are highly sought after. If you want your home again, then take it back!



Sorry, not everyone in wh space is blue to 3 separate entities with who they can get xxx amount of people.
Nor does a small 10 man corp who got evicted have any chance to take a wh back from someone like that.
So you trade 10 actual people who used to live there and do stuff (probably mostly carebearing), with an alt farm corp that is run by 1-2 guys (more than that, you are probably a bit special).

Not to mention hard knocks+QEX evicted band of magnus for killing hk gank set.
I wonder what would happen if a small corp was to take one of their farm wh's then.
You defending them like a good boy, just proves more how ssc is part of the cfc.




If you're going to question my loyalty, please post on your main.
You suggesting blue standings shows you have no clue.
And you're completely missing my point. I'm not here defending their actions, if they want to setup bear holes for ISK then they can go ahead. I've already stated Im against renter holes.

And sure, a smaller group is going to struggle to take down a larger entity. But thats also part of EvE. Why should a smaller group of people have an advantage over a larger group? If i was BoM i'd seed a fleet in to my recently lost hole and gank their site running fleet repeatedly.

So please, insult me more on a random alt that means nothing. I'm sitting here posting on my main, grow some balls.

So, glorious QEX brother steals potatoes from hisec.
Thea Yulivee
Hobbs End Industries
#42 - 2015-02-10 12:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Thea Yulivee
Standing issues aside i agree with some of the points Morally Gray made

Not everyone in WH space is able to take good high-class WHs (and neither should everyone be), however by populating a significant ammount of high-class WHs with alt-corps that do not contribute anything to the space itself, projects like this one will just trade Wormholes with some people in there, that try to make a living there for wormholes filled with online towers and no ships (as if there wouldn't already be enough of those out there)

I'd prefer smaller, pve-focused corps over alt-ratting alliances any day of the week - i'm not saying that i don't understand why this is beneficial to a pvp corp, i just feel that stuff like this will hurt w-space in the long run

thinking about it, i'd even prefer renters over this inactive alt-alliance concept
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2015-02-10 12:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Miyamoto wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Ion Udan wrote:
Removing someone from their home because you want that system for yourself, is quite often done, Mags are highly sought after.

yeah, but doing so to plant a 100% farming alt op is HIGHLY frowned upon.
and when it's done by a 'PVP' group like HK who have previously evicted and generally sh*t talked many groups who PVE, it's beyond ironic.

Highly? what the hell do the rest of you do all day that's sooooo impressive? Because it sure isn't 'PVP'... so what if they have a few bear holes, get over it or go evict them.

OH SNAP!!! I GOT KB DUNKED BY AN NPC ALT!!!
I don't see Republic University ANYWHERE on that list son, get good!

PS:
Quote:
i'm not saying that i don't understand why, i just feel that stuff like this will hurt w-space in the long run

^this pretty much sums it up nicely.

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Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2015-02-10 12:50:05 UTC
Morally Gray wrote:
Sorry, not everyone in wh space is blue to 3 separate entities with who they can get xxx amount of people.
Nor does a small 10 man corp who got evicted have any chance to take a wh back from someone like that.
Sorry, but your corporation has 438859 members and here you are whining about some couple hundred players flying together. Surely you see the irony in that...

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TurboX3
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#45 - 2015-02-10 13:53:15 UTC
Having a alt corp to run PVE is old news... for some (like me) but I like the fact you have micro-managed the politics internally..

Running home-sites does lock down the home-system & cause dramas.. +1.
Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2015-02-10 14:00:16 UTC
Miyamoto wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Ion Udan wrote:
Removing someone from their home because you want that system for yourself, is quite often done, Mags are highly sought after.

yeah, but doing so to plant a 100% farming alt op is HIGHLY frowned upon.
and when it's done by a 'PVP' group like HK who have previously evicted and generally sh*t talked many groups who PVE, it's beyond ironic.

Highly? what the hell do the rest of you do all day that's sooooo impressive? Because it sure isn't 'PVP'... so what if they have a few bear holes, get over it or go evict them.



Are you calling out Isogen 5 for farming? I don't understand

Just a wormhole guy
Miyamoto
Doomheim
#47 - 2015-02-10 14:02:17 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Miyamoto wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Ion Udan wrote:
Removing someone from their home because you want that system for yourself, is quite often done, Mags are highly sought after.

yeah, but doing so to plant a 100% farming alt op is HIGHLY frowned upon.
and when it's done by a 'PVP' group like HK who have previously evicted and generally sh*t talked many groups who PVE, it's beyond ironic.

Highly? what the hell do the rest of you do all day that's sooooo impressive? Because it sure isn't 'PVP'... so what if they have a few bear holes, get over it or go evict them.

OH SNAP!!! I GOT KB DUNKED BY AN NPC ALT!!!
I don't see Republic University ANYWHERE on that list son, get good!

oh I just thought everyone else was posting on alts because that was the cool thing to do. I did not realize that privilege was reserved only for people who agree with your point of view. please accept my most humblest of apologies Great Leader of Bob.
Miyamoto
Doomheim
#48 - 2015-02-10 14:09:26 UTC
Foedus Latro wrote:
Miyamoto wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Ion Udan wrote:
Removing someone from their home because you want that system for yourself, is quite often done, Mags are highly sought after.

yeah, but doing so to plant a 100% farming alt op is HIGHLY frowned upon.
and when it's done by a 'PVP' group like HK who have previously evicted and generally sh*t talked many groups who PVE, it's beyond ironic.

Highly? what the hell do the rest of you do all day that's sooooo impressive? Because it sure isn't 'PVP'... so what if they have a few bear holes, get over it or go evict them.



Are you calling out Isogen 5 for farming? I don't understand

absolutely not officer. I would never speak in offense to the wormhole space police. I even made a donation to the Wormhole Space Police Department last year that was so large, they invited me to the Annual Wormhole Space Policeman's Ball; 'twas a grand time!
Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2015-02-10 14:13:59 UTC
I sense you are mad about something Mr. Miyamoto. Did someone gank your site fleet or something?

Just a wormhole guy
Miyamoto
Doomheim
#50 - 2015-02-10 14:17:41 UTC
Foedus Latro wrote:
I sense you are mad about something Mr. Miyamoto. Did someone gank your site fleet or something?
that would require the rest of you being competent at this game instead of the supreme whiny bitches of the forums.
CivilWars
Half Empty
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#51 - 2015-02-10 14:48:33 UTC
SMH @ just invade them. I recall a time when LZHX and friends made a list, and as a result RLLO 1.0 and friends made their own list, but before the first POS could even be RFed some third party internet lawyers that weren't on either list or involved on either side came in to broker a peace treaty nobody wanted. Keep telling yourself that w-space is somehow different than the blue donut of 00. If you repeat it long enough maybe it will come true.

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Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2015-02-10 15:14:52 UTC
Miyamoto wrote:
Foedus Latro wrote:
I sense you are mad about something Mr. Miyamoto. Did someone gank your site fleet or something?
that would require the rest of you being competent at this game instead of the supreme whiny bitches of the forums.


Ok, man.Cool

Just a wormhole guy
Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#53 - 2015-02-10 15:41:24 UTC
something something really big veiny throbbing e-penis
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#54 - 2015-02-10 15:56:24 UTC
-5 - HK and Co
-5 - SSC
Orange Donut

I'd love to not have to run home sites, but we don't have the infrastructure yet to earn money like other well-established corps/alliances. C6 space is saturated with anomalies, so it's only natural us ISK-poor C5 and below folk try to milk them.

C6 isn't having it, though, because they need all that ISK to themselves. But, you know, they've been there for a long time, so I understand. It wouldn't be so alarming if some of those guys didn't have such anemic PvP worth.
CivilWars
Half Empty
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#55 - 2015-02-10 16:28:29 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
-5 - HK and Co
-5 - SSC
Orange Donut

I'd love to not have to run home sites, but we don't have the infrastructure yet to earn money like other well-established corps/alliances. C6 space is saturated with anomalies, so it's only natural us ISK-poor C5 and below folk try to milk them.

C6 isn't having it, though, because they need all that ISK to themselves. But, you know, they've been there for a long time, so I understand. It wouldn't be so alarming if some of those guys didn't have such anemic PvP worth.

Can I join? I will help you make a new list. It starts off with anyone with a POS in w-space. We can figure out the rest later.

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Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#56 - 2015-02-10 16:36:04 UTC
I'm pretty sure you all are -10, lol.
Morally Gray
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2015-02-10 18:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Morally Gray
Hidden Fremen wrote:

But, you know, they've been there for a long time, so I understand. It wouldn't be so alarming if some of those guys didn't have such
anemic PvP worth.


Perhaps make a spreadsheet with number of kills/isk killed per player/toon.
I'am sure a lot of those top corps would be in the bottom.
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#58 - 2015-02-10 18:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Fremen
Here's another perspective(closest I could find). Some of them would be at the absolute bottom.
Mahmoud Khatami Ahmadinejad
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2015-02-11 00:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mahmoud Khatami Ahmadinejad
The thing is, qex and hk dont want fights. they just want killmails, if anybody tries to fight back in any way, they just team up and evict them.
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2015-02-11 01:26:41 UTC
So what is the point in the end to keep alt alliance for bearing? Why dont you put everyone in single alliance?

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