Crime & Punishment

I think (I'm just guessing here) that he's talking about when you trade isk combined with LP in order to obtain LP goods. That being said I'm sure that is such a minute amount of isk that it's effects are not significant. I could be wrong though.

While I agree that having a superb opponent such as myself is certainly Code's #1 achievement in the game...none can deny that their organization is crumbling, and is in its final death spiral. And let me tell you, that wasn't due to AG (whose own mod, Gorila Venzaga, turned out, to the shock of many (myself not included of course), to be a secret CODE spy), or to Marmite (who failed miserably to stop Code, and made themselves look foolish in the process), or to the various ragtag anti-gank fleets (which all failed miserably, and were often led by code spy Gorila), or to all the failed wardeccs, the idiotic bounties, or the various comically incompetence anti-code alliances.

What stopped Code? What stopped them was decent people (led by mysefl), who stood up against the griefing, the tear collection, the real life harassment, the inducement of rage, the endless curbstomping of pathetic miners and haulers, and all the other vicissitudes that code stands for. Shining a bright light on people doing very bad things has a tendency to put a stop to it. Sure, some may credit CCP and their crackdowns on this behavior, but I beg to differ. Code wasn't toppled by game mechanics changes or bans for harassment, code fell because its own leadership started to question its role in the game, the morality of its underlying behavior, and whether constant suicide ganking to generate rage and tears is an activity that decent people would be engaged in. One by one its leaders have faced those questions, and quite rightly opted to retire from Eve life.

And that, sir, is the greatest victory a man can achieve. Not defeating your opponents in battle (when they can replace their losses and return another day), but rather defeating them in the war of ideas of values, and getting them to voluntarily abandon their own positions. That is what Veers has accomplished but AG never has - getting code to see why their campaign of unrestricted suicide ganking is fundamentally bad for Eve, and should be terminated. And not just getting them to see that, but actually getting them to act on it.

When all you have left is John E Normus (get it? not funny) and Miss Foxxie, you really have hit rock bottom. They might as well rename it the code organization for the love and cuddling of pink teddy bears and barbie dolls. So yes, let them keep spouting their lie that I am their best recruiting tool, etc...It's a falsehood they will clutch to as they slowly descend 6 feet under.

Code activity has cratered...they barely have enough dps to blow up a venture anymore. Their gank fleets are as well attended as meetings of the flat earth society.

No, I simply properly diagnosed his frequent bouts of rage as being fundamentally incompatible with being an ardent opponent of suicide ganking. His underlying pathology existed well before I came on the scene, and should have been obvious to AG leadership. Once again, Veers sees where others see naught.

roflmao

You didn't 'diagnose' anything, either.

roflmao

Son, that's not something that you should be smug about.

The last time I saw a pile of steaming dung this big it had Jeff Goldblum standing next to it.
The only person that believes you led anything is yourself, your sense of self importance demands that you take credit regardless.

Einstein had something to say about people like you:

Ego=1/Knowledge
More the knowledge lesser the ego, lesser the knowledge more the ego.

While Veers is full of trash as usual, he got one (Too bad that it's only one) thing right.
Do nothing AGAINST them. Just do stuff for YOURSELF.
That's the way to do anything. Because hell, if you do something against, you are designed to lose when opposition withdraws.

Wait a minute... Well, I was wrong about Veers. Do FOR is not about him, he-he.

Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning.

Sure Veers....you know all..lol. I'm not even going to dignify that with a response..as your comprehension skills don't allow for the assimilation of fact..only belief and rubbish. So, Mr eve guru...keep fooling yourself and we will keep laughing at you. See...you do serve some purpose.