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Full Metal Jackie
Defining Harassment
#1 - 2015-02-01 22:05:39 UTC
To start I'm 100% interested in pvping in wormholes. If I did any sort of industry, it'd be doing pi running factory planets. I'm wondering what some of you would recommend for hunting. I will admit, due to my playtimes (shift work) and lack of friends (forever alone) I don't know of anyone to hook up with to participate in this with.

I am just shooting in the dark here but I figure that living in a low class wormhole with a highsec static would provide ideal content. My reasoning comes from assuming there'd be a lot of traffic from people wanting to come in for day tripping as well as people passing through seeking a way to haul their loot to a trade hub.

What would some of you suggest?
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#2 - 2015-02-01 22:08:58 UTC
Full Metal Jackie wrote:
To start I'm 100% interested in pvping in wormholes. If I did any sort of industry, it'd be doing pi running factory planets. I'm wondering what some of you would recommend for hunting. I will admit, due to my playtimes (shift work) and lack of friends (forever alone) I don't know of anyone to hook up with to participate in this with.

I am just shooting in the dark here but I figure that living in a low class wormhole with a highsec static would provide ideal content. My reasoning comes from assuming there'd be a lot of traffic from people wanting to come in for day tripping as well as people passing through seeking a way to haul their loot to a trade hub.

What would some of you suggest?

A C2 with both a Highsec and some WH static.

Your reasoning is sound. The highsec brings more trouble than it is worth, but because trouble is what you are after, it is the right choice for you.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#3 - 2015-02-01 22:12:19 UTC
Pretty much that. Don't expect people to just waltz into you. You'll have to scan, a lot.

You probably should consider day tripping. Less management especially if your alone.

Yaay!!!!
Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#4 - 2015-02-01 22:14:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayze Severasse
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action. (and the PI is amazing)
Lowsec inhabs hate the WHs...they usually auto rage roll a k162 that pops up (especially if you pop out and say hi)...there is your opportunity ;)

Hisec statics are hit and miss...they can and do bring visitors, but not as reliably as a lowsec...and the lowsec will bring choice targets :)

P.S. You could also stash a cyno ship in the C4 and launch attacks in K-space with capitals?...*see "PI is amazing" :)

Just some thoughts....
Full Metal Jackie
Defining Harassment
#5 - 2015-02-01 22:32:16 UTC
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action. (and the PI is amazing)
Lowsec inhabs hate the WHs...they usually auto rage roll a k162 that pops up (especially if you pop out and say hi)...there is your opportunity ;)

Hisec statics are hit and miss...they can and do bring visitors, but not as reliably as a lowsec...and the lowsec will bring choice targets :)

P.S. You could also stash a cyno ship in the C4 and launch attacks in K-space with capitals?...*see "PI is amazing" :)

Just some thoughts....

I'd be hesitant to live in a c4 mainly because of the larger mass allowed. I know if someone wants your pos dead, it can happen. I don't plan on making myself look like a threat or an opportunity to make good ISK off of, but allowing larger ships in increases the chances of that happening I would imagine.

Thanks for the input and advice so far!
Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#6 - 2015-02-01 23:07:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayze Severasse
Full Metal Jackie wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action. (and the PI is amazing)
Lowsec inhabs hate the WHs...they usually auto rage roll a k162 that pops up (especially if you pop out and say hi)...there is your opportunity ;)

Hisec statics are hit and miss...they can and do bring visitors, but not as reliably as a lowsec...and the lowsec will bring choice targets :)

P.S. You could also stash a cyno ship in the C4 and launch attacks in K-space with capitals?...*see "PI is amazing" :)

Just some thoughts....

I'd be hesitant to live in a c4 mainly because of the larger mass allowed. I know if someone wants your pos dead, it can happen. I don't plan on making myself look like a threat or an opportunity to make good ISK off of, but allowing larger ships in increases the chances of that happening I would imagine.

Thanks for the input and advice so far!




It is truly my pleasure to speak, and be heard :) You are most welcome....
I guess the "solo" nature of your endeavour does in fact make a lower class with a hisec static your best bet.
I just watched a C4 like I described go from unoccupied, to a fully loaded faction tower before my eyes...so somebody was listening then :D
If the money/people were there then that's what I'd do...but for solo fun, you know what to do ;)

P.S. Whatever you do, remember, POS changes are coming the 17th I believe...aimed at fixing POS security risks, so don't decide till then my friend :)
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-02-01 23:11:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action...

I'll take things that don't exist for 200 Bob!
Let's also follow that up with People Who Know Nothing About WHs and Insist of Posting a Ton on the WH Forums for 300.

OP, you should live in a C2 with HS and a C1, C3 or C4 static.
Alternatively, if you want better wspace access, live in a C4 with a C1-3 static and something else. You'll still have plenty of kspace access though your low class static.

PS: mass on C4s and C2s is identical.

There is no Bob.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-02-01 23:38:47 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action...

I'll take things that don't exist for 200 Bob!
Let's also follow that up with People Who Know Nothing About WHs and Insist of Posting a Ton on the WH Forums for 300.

OP, you should live in a C2 with HS and a C1, C3 or C4 static.
Alternatively, if you want better wspace access, live in a C4 with a C1-3 static and something else. You'll still have plenty of kspace access though your low class static.

PS: mass on C4s and C2s is identical.


This is pretty much spot on. My personal preference is on the C4/C4/C1-3 type of WH. But I prefer being able to roam long chains in WH space. Having been in a C2/C3/HS unless you got lucky with random incoming WH's your chains were basically tiny. But that is a matter of personal preference.

IMO you are at greater risk of eviction from a C2 than a C4, mostly because C2's are generally more popular.
Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#9 - 2015-02-01 23:52:10 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action...

I'll take things that don't exist for 200 Bob!
Let's also follow that up with People Who Know Nothing About WHs and Insist of Posting a Ton on the WH Forums for 300.

OP, you should live in a C2 with HS and a C1, C3 or C4 static.
Alternatively, if you want better wspace access, live in a C4 with a C1-3 static and something else. You'll still have plenty of kspace access though your low class static.

PS: mass on C4s and C2s is identical.




Are you mad Jack cuz the first post I made that you tried to troll is now locked forever? Showing my awesomeness as a newb and your stick in the mud mentality?
Full Metal Jackie
Defining Harassment
#10 - 2015-02-01 23:52:53 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action...

I'll take things that don't exist for 200 Bob!
Let's also follow that up with People Who Know Nothing About WHs and Insist of Posting a Ton on the WH Forums for 300.

OP, you should live in a C2 with HS and a C1, C3 or C4 static.
Alternatively, if you want better wspace access, live in a C4 with a C1-3 static and something else. You'll still have plenty of kspace access though your low class static.

PS: mass on C4s and C2s is identical.

Thanks in correcting me on wh masses. I guess if I'm not living in a c1 I might as well search for a c4. I'm not experienced enough nor confident enough to take on a small gang while solo. Obviously I need to do more self-educating but from what I read, people are looking to daytrip in c1-c3s in a cruiser or t3.

Since I will be embarking in this by myself, I plan to make good use of my 2 alt accounts. I have my primary alt in a boosting proteus with maximum scanning skills. He will be able to provide cloaky warpins. My immediate plan is to get him into command ships and then maybe fast tackle / hics. My second alt is training straight for a falcon, then into logi 5.

Thoughts and opinions on my alts and their capabilities to assist my main? Anything glaringly obvious that I would want for this endeavor that I may overlook?

Again, thanks for the input and help.
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#11 - 2015-02-02 00:33:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
A warp speed rigged Interdictor might come in handy when finding someone doing something stupid on the other side of a newly spawned wormhole.

Jayze Severasse wrote:
Rambling

All of the statements made by this person are strictly false. How is this even possible?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-02-02 01:44:45 UTC
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
Rambling

All of the statements made by this person are strictly false. How is this even possible?

I have no idea but it's really quite impressive....
you think Jester made an alt?

Also OP, one other thing I would suggest is joining a corp. it's far easier and more rewarding.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Full Metal Jackie
Defining Harassment
#13 - 2015-02-02 03:31:41 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
Rambling

All of the statements made by this person are strictly false. How is this even possible?

I have no idea but it's really quite impressive....
you think Jester made an alt?

Also OP, one other thing I would suggest is joining a corp. it's far easier and more rewarding.

You have any suggestions for any sort of corps that have similar interests?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-02-02 04:50:44 UTC
Full Metal Jackie wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
Rambling

All of the statements made by this person are strictly false. How is this even possible?

I have no idea but it's really quite impressive....
you think Jester made an alt?

Also OP, one other thing I would suggest is joining a corp. it's far easier and more rewarding.

You have any suggestions for any sort of corps that have similar interests?

I'd start by looking here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=369287&find=unread

And here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=391414&find=unread

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Newt BlackCompany
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2015-02-02 06:28:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Newt BlackCompany
Full Metal Jackie wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action. (and the PI is amazing)
Lowsec inhabs hate the WHs...they usually auto rage roll a k162 that pops up (especially if you pop out and say hi)...there is your opportunity ;)

Hisec statics are hit and miss...they can and do bring visitors, but not as reliably as a lowsec...and the lowsec will bring choice targets :)

P.S. You could also stash a cyno ship in the C4 and launch attacks in K-space with capitals?...*see "PI is amazing" :)

Just some thoughts....

I'd be hesitant to live in a c4 mainly because of the larger mass allowed. I know if someone wants your pos dead, it can happen. I don't plan on making myself look like a threat or an opportunity to make good ISK off of, but allowing larger ships in increases the chances of that happening I would imagine.

Thanks for the input and advice so far!


The mass allowed in a C4 is enough for about 7 battleships, or 15 if they don't mind collapsing the hole, or about 150 T3's. A capital ship cannot fit. If somebody wants to take out your pos, they will, but pos bashing is boring and you can make it worse by building your pos as a deathstar.

That said, if you want pvp, a c4 is not the right way to go. Traffic is low. A C2 with hs and another wh is probably best, or possibly a ls.

Good luck, and may you sacrifice many unwary travelers to bob!
Full Metal Jackie
Defining Harassment
#16 - 2015-02-02 07:31:48 UTC
Newt BlackCompany wrote:
Full Metal Jackie wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
I disagree, pretty sure a C4 with a lowsec static is what would bring you most fun/pvp action. (and the PI is amazing)
Lowsec inhabs hate the WHs...they usually auto rage roll a k162 that pops up (especially if you pop out and say hi)...there is your opportunity ;)

Hisec statics are hit and miss...they can and do bring visitors, but not as reliably as a lowsec...and the lowsec will bring choice targets :)

P.S. You could also stash a cyno ship in the C4 and launch attacks in K-space with capitals?...*see "PI is amazing" :)

Just some thoughts....

I'd be hesitant to live in a c4 mainly because of the larger mass allowed. I know if someone wants your pos dead, it can happen. I don't plan on making myself look like a threat or an opportunity to make good ISK off of, but allowing larger ships in increases the chances of that happening I would imagine.

Thanks for the input and advice so far!


The mass allowed in a C4 is enough for about 7 battleships, or 15 if they don't mind collapsing the hole, or about 150 T3's. A capital ship cannot fit. If somebody wants to take out your pos, they will, but pos bashing is boring and you can make it worse by building your pos as a deathstar.

That said, if you want pvp, a c4 is not the right way to go. Traffic is low. A C2 with hs and another wh is probably best, or possibly a ls.

Good luck, and may you sacrifice many unwary travelers to bob!

Thanks for the info. I spent about two hours tonight roaming through wormholes trying to see if I could find anything that met my standards. Wandered through a large chain of c2 - c3 where I ended up easing back home after being chased off by a stratios. Shame on me for not having my main there.

I've been messing around on the pos builder website and have got a "d1ckstar" put together. I think that if I'm not around to manually defend it or until I have enough alst to sit in the guns, I'm better off with something that will be more of a nuisance to the average passerby. I found a video showcasing an interesting method of anchoring your batteries in a hedgehog or pin cushion design. It looks very intimidating.

I will probably end up doing a little day tripping for pvp just to test the waters while I get more comfortable and accustomed to wh life. I need to read up on what the most recent changes were for wormholes as well as what is supposedly changing with pos stuff. I've done quite a bit in eve and wormholes is probably the area that requires the most research and preparation.
Newt BlackCompany
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-02-02 08:33:43 UTC
Good idea. Perhaps also spend the time traveling the c2 highway (C2 holes with C2 statics) and search for your 'perfect' home wh. It will give you lots of practice with scanning which is so critical in wh's.

Also, unless you plan on camping the hisec exit, there's an art to catching wholers unawares using probes. Practice trying to get their location nailed using just the dscan, and if you can get it close enough, then you can often lock their position with a single scan of the combat probes. If you are quick, they maybe won't see your probes and you can get the jump on them.

Good luck!
Catalytic morphisis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-02-02 10:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Catalytic morphisis
Full Metal Jackie wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:
Rambling

All of the statements made by this person are strictly false. How is this even possible?

I have no idea but it's really quite impressive....
you think Jester made an alt?

Also OP, one other thing I would suggest is joining a corp. it's far easier and more rewarding.

You have any suggestions for any sort of corps that have similar interests?


I'm recruiting myself, I hold a C3 Wormhole, Literally just mine at the moment, Low sec statiic too and I do indeed intend to pop out to Low and get the good fight, However since I was setting my POS up last night then I didn't get round to any fighting.

If you're interested hit me up

Also the POS is in the process of being turned into a full on Dickstar when I'm not running my labs

Actual Link free and scout free solo PvP'er
Full Metal Jackie
Defining Harassment
#19 - 2015-02-02 11:29:25 UTC
Thinking about pos setups... The first corp I was ever in lived in a c4 for a few weeks. They let me come in, and of course all I could fly was a retriever. They had a mixture of large, medium, and small bubbles anchored around their pos but had intentionally left a tiny crack between one where you could warp Ito the pos shields. To do so you obviously have to use a bounce before warping to the pos. I never thought to ask them, but what purpose does that really serve? Is there any tactical or psychological advantage to bubbling your own pos?
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#20 - 2015-02-02 12:37:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
Full Metal Jackie wrote:
Thinking about pos setups... The first corp I was ever in lived in a c4 for a few weeks. They let me come in, and of course all I could fly was a retriever. They had a mixture of large, medium, and small bubbles anchored around their pos but had intentionally left a tiny crack between one where you could warp Ito the pos shields. To do so you obviously have to use a bounce before warping to the pos. I never thought to ask them, but what purpose does that really serve? Is there any tactical or psychological advantage to bubbling your own pos?

Some people set up a bubble trap by placing a drag bubble so that if a scout warps to it from a celestial, they may get drawn to the bubble and decloaked by the POS defense modules anchored at the edge of the bubble. An alert scout is very likely to escape, but it can kill people who for example warp while scanning signatures.

Bubbling your entire POS sounds like a bit of an overkill.
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