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Ships used for solo Lv 4 mission running
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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#21 - 2011-12-03 00:49:01 UTC
I544CJON35 Aldent wrote:
I use the Dominix Navy Issue. The Raven is a good one too, and a great tank on a drake will do well. I hear the Mach is good. The normal domi will work just as well. The new T3 BC's won't work, not enough tank ability.


Drake to solo a level 4 mission? Sorry, no. It's far too weak on gank.
Vana Dell
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-12-03 06:39:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Vana Dell
I swear by the Drake these days, but anyone know what a good build would be for one running lvl 4 missions?

Edit: And while I'm at it, I'm looking to invest in a CNR (which I recently got the skills to pilot) anyone know of good fits for that?
Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-12-03 07:34:16 UTC
Use a maelstrom and fit that bad boy with some 1400s
Vana Dell
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2011-12-03 07:40:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Vana Dell
Surge Roth wrote:
Use a maelstrom and fit that bad boy with some 1400s

Fantastic idea, except for the part that I started out as Caldari. Thus why I'm using an Drake atm and not a maelstrom. No reason why I can't train into a Maelstrom, I know, but have to use what I can use.
mama guru
Yazatas.
#25 - 2011-12-03 13:36:15 UTC
Caldari Navy Raven or Tengu it is then.

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knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-12-03 22:10:11 UTC
+1 for the mach. Tried pretty much everythin in level 4's and the mach is fast and probably the least dull since you can speed tank around at 600m/s and POP frigates at 70k out.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#27 - 2011-12-04 05:38:17 UTC
Umega wrote:
Instead of the 3x CCC route.. there is always the T2 RoF rig + em shield rig combo to go with instead. The T2 rig is a touch expensive but does up the dps decently, also kinda makes more viable the notion of dropping one of them un-named gyros for a DCU.. not so much cause it can help you tank as it does help you survive, if not completely ward off, gank attempts for your faction pieces, faction km, and tears by groups unable to contend with the massive ehp increase DCU gives. Also the latter rigs work better if you transistion your mach to PvP use later, imo.

Obviously if you don't feel any threat of gank.. 4 gyro/3 TE go.



you MUST use a t2 rof rig no point in using anything else when they exist, cost 20mil in jita!

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tofucake prime
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#28 - 2011-12-04 06:31:38 UTC
This is what I use for 4s:

[Drake, pve]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Salvager I
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5


With BC5 and decent cap skills you don't even need your Invulns most of the time. Just cruise around with MWD and laugh at everything not being able to hit you.
Sansar Sabezan
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2011-12-04 10:18:26 UTC
So many ships to do L4 with...

You have quite a broad selection of cruisers and BC and some T2 frigs can also add some spice to some L4.

It's a matter of playstyle really. Want to relax and let the ship do it for you? Want to blitz through? Want to kill all - loot all in one go?

My personal favs for L4 range from Rattler (omnitank with 3 omni links; heavy passive tank), Ishtar, Dominix (navy and regular), Phantasm, Nightmare, Vindicator. Blaster Vigilant might also be quite nifty.

But the choice is up to everyone - the possibilities can't be counted on one hand like in so many other games. Pick a ship and if your assets allow then give it a try. Just don't bring a ship you're not very familliar with to missions where you get scrambled ;-).

Oh, and fit the ship to your taste. I fit my Rattler with a 1.4k passive omnitank because I fly it to relax. When I want some action I usually take another ship that gets more out of damage mods like a shield tanked Vindi, the Phantasm or Nightmare.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#30 - 2011-12-04 19:28:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Talon SilverHawk
I use a Golem, good active shield tank, cruise, drones, with a couple of tractors and a salvager fitted (if you want to salvage), use faction cruise and fof cruise for when jammed. Lazy lvl 4 fit but works nice.
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#31 - 2011-12-06 01:49:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Zyella Stormborn
Went over to my Legion a few months ago for L4's and up to CL3 WH's, and absolutely fell in love. Big smile

The massive tank, 80+ resist all, speed and low profile, along with the solid dps, I think I have had one moment in a WH that gave me a sweat (player jumped me while I had several sleepers aggro, seemed to think the other guy in the zone was just a salvager alt of mine and not another active player. His mistake). Even drained, with the resists I had plenty enough tank to hold off till help arrived, and had him down to about 70% armor.

As was stated above, there are a ton of great options for L4's nowadays. I just personally enjoy being out of BS and Marauders for a change. Too slow feeling. But then, I always tended to be the guy that picked 45 -50 ton mechs in Battletech too. We each have our style. Pirate

There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly
LunaK
Doomheim
#32 - 2011-12-06 02:16:43 UTC
Drake.

The answer is always drake.
Federigo Mondial
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2011-12-06 04:21:57 UTC
Speed, DPS and style points. Mach. Can't go wrong with it.
Everyone else is just runners up.

You can fit a Drake to fly a level 4 but it will be pretty slow going. Either upgrade to the NH or Tengu if you intend to spec HML or move on to a Raven or Dominix.
Wyte Ragnarok
#34 - 2011-12-06 15:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Wyte Ragnarok
Hi there, I've seen this thread has quite a few Mach fans so I was just wondering about ideas for one of my potential Mach fits, shown below. It'd be flown with a full Crystal clone which I already had and will pretty much just be used to Gurista and Angel Missions. Obviously Shield Hardeners are inter-changable. The Domination Hardeners are slightly weaker than T2's, but they use less CPU, and I had some CPU problems with this (thanks to the shield booster), so that's the reason for them. Shiled Booster I already have, so would prefer to use that over a different one. I've seen fits with CCC rigs and... Well... The cap doesn't last as long with them, so I'm not sure why people opted for those instead?


[Machariel]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Ballistic Deflection Field
Domination Ballistic Deflection Field
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I


Thanks a lot


Umega wrote:
go plasma for kin weak rats as if I remember right, therm is their secondary weak


Hmm. So Plasma would be better than Titanium Sabot (kinetic damage) against stuff like Guristas?
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#35 - 2011-12-06 16:59:52 UTC
Someone said MACH and somehow the thread continued?

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stoicfaux
#36 - 2011-12-06 17:44:34 UTC
Vana Dell wrote:
I swear by the Drake these days, but anyone know what a good build would be for one running lvl 4 missions?


If I had to fly a Drake for levels 4s, I think I would try this. Max gank (still low DPS though,) nearly cap-stable, and requires you to speed tank. Should be fine against Guristas/Serps, probably fine against Angels, and probably bad against Sansha/BR. I really wish CCP had removed the Fury ammo sig penalty.

[Drake, Level 4 Ooga Booga]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field
Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


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stoicfaux
#37 - 2011-12-06 17:46:38 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Someone said MACH and somehow the thread continued?


Yes, but only because no one specified whether it was an MWD or AB Mach.

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Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-12-07 01:15:25 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
well um... i hate to interrupt your drake and machariel praising, but what is a viable fit for deimos for level 4's? i know one exists, i've seen it, but i didn't save it.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
LunaK
Doomheim
#39 - 2011-12-07 02:35:46 UTC  |  Edited by: LunaK
Shield vindi, break 2k dps with heat and smile.
Umega
Solis Mensa
#40 - 2011-12-07 04:25:24 UTC
Wyte Ragnarok wrote:
Hi there, I've seen this thread has quite a few Mach fans so I was just wondering about ideas for one of my potential Mach fits, shown below. It'd be flown with a full Crystal clone which I already had and will pretty much just be used to Gurista and Angel Missions. Obviously Shield Hardeners are inter-changable. The Domination Hardeners are slightly weaker than T2's, but they use less CPU, and I had some CPU problems with this (thanks to the shield booster), so that's the reason for them. Shiled Booster I already have, so would prefer to use that over a different one. I've seen fits with CCC rigs and... Well... The cap doesn't last as long with them, so I'm not sure why people opted for those instead?


[Machariel]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Ballistic Deflection Field
Domination Ballistic Deflection Field
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I


Thanks a lot


Umega wrote:
go plasma for kin weak rats as if I remember right, therm is their secondary weak


Hmm. So Plasma would be better than Titanium Sabot (kinetic damage) against stuff like Guristas?


Plasma is a 50% base dmg bump over Sabot.. quite significant even when figuring resists (I'm pretty sure). I used plasma on Guristas.

Dump the cap booster for shield amp. Go with the T2 RoF rig and EM shield rig combo. I only had to flee from missions because of when I did something stupid like pop trigs too soon.. or Guristas have me perma locked. Either or, having more cap doesn't help, either going to sit there perma-jammed and hope aggressive set drones (bad idea if some rifter wants to grief you, shoot you so drones aggro them and CONCORD pops both of you).. or run out and come back so you can pop enough of the ecm down to make it bearable again. And popping too many trigs in certain missions.. having cap isn't going to matter when too much dps is melting your active tank.

Know how to do missions correctly and scraming rats should be dealt with immediately.. everything else will be easy and fast with its speed n applied dps.

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