EVE General Discussion

The question is Eve The Old Kid on The Block Like DayZ (Of Course Eve Isnt In Alpha)
However I do Believe You can teach a old dog new tricks.
I ask The Community And The Devs to Think Outside The Box.
Its Not To Late To Save Eve From Demise.
I ask to really try to understand why some games are popular than others without the Hardcore vs Casual bias.
I think we all can learn something by reading this and perhaps draw a parallels.
I want nothing more Like every other player to make eve online the greatest Sci Fi military MMO in the world.
so please lets not troll or berate each other lets keep the posts civil and on topic thanks.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/01/28/h1z1-alpha-review/

Ultima, DoTA, Anarchy, Everquest, et cetera. There were many games before WoW.

I maintain that Waste of Web, aka World of Warcraft was so popular because it was the first MMO that ran on almost any machine and could be played by any idiot.

Now you are coming along and expecting the whole of EVE to change, all those masses and masses of code, thousands of lines of it to suit you.
Why? What is the point?

Why should they undo years of work and try and compete on a different level with games that have already won?
Why should they alienate their players and destroy their reputation in the wider MMO community?
Why should they get labelled as a company that sold out?

It makes absolutely no sense.

Stop asking CCP to flush EVE down the toilet.

I guarentee you highend raiding guilds that raid mando hours several times week are wayyyyyy better gamers than ANY EVE PVE ASPECT

I also guarentee highlevel arena teams have OMFG WAYYYY MORE SKILL thank all but the Gammons/Chessurs/etc etc of eve. Go watch some wow pvp vids, then think of gate camps, blobs, cynos, F1, ganks, duelss etc etc.

Well here is a chance to show some truth.

I read the review, then the Reddit page.

One thing stands out: they promised the game would not be P2W, meaning the air drops would be "cosmetic", then the airdrops started dropping things that gave an advantage.

So this says to me that Eve is not going out, because in the end, they have not gone P2W.

You see that "summer of rage" back in the past had NOTHING to do with WiS. Nothing. It was not impressive for sure, but that's not what it was all about.

So you know what, the ONLY thing that keeps Eve around is, it's not P2W. Period. And all that rage was not "poor people who can't grind" complaining. It was the people who actually care about the game, and know how fast Eve is truly nuked if it ever goes P2W.

Raise your hand if you tried WoT and left because you got one-shotted too many times by "gold ammo" or shot another tank 10 times and nothing because you didn't have it.

So Eve will persist as a successful "old kid on the block", the kind that the other kids who will live fast and die young will want to be like, but will fall easily to the lure of "monetization" and be forgotten in mere months.

But the minute Eve becomes P2W it's so over the demise of both Death Stars will look like farts in a hurricane.

WoW was actually pretty amazing right up until after Ulduar in WotLK, and especially during vanilla and BC. The pve content was very challenging (only a small amount of people completed the high-end raids), and the game, its professions, items, and lore had this nice exploratory feeling to it. The pvp was also interesting, if not very engrossing (or maybe the other way around?). Those day-long AV matches were really something.

Then they decided to open up the game to the casuals, and I mean the really casual casuals, at the end of WotLK. We're literally talking free purpz here. Routine started being encouraged instead of effort, and the game quickly went downhill. That's when I quit. Oh, and here's the EVE-relevant kicker: when they did that, they lost like a third of their subs. The vets left, and the casuals didn't stay. And now they had to go back on a lot of the changes, while also turning the game into something new entirely, in order to reverse that damage.

Closed.