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End of the Awoxer? Is eve getting too soft?
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Light Sigh No
Doomheim
#61 - 2015-01-30 20:02:58 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Highsec is designed to be vastly safer than lowsec....it's pretty insane to think otherwise.

Those two letters are the crux of this whole issue.

"Safer" is not the same as "safe".

PvP can happen anywhere in EvE from the time you log in until the time you log out.

This is by design, and I think it would be to EvE's detriment were to CCP implement actual "PvP-free" zones.


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.
Orlacc
#62 - 2015-01-30 20:04:00 UTC
Light Sigh No wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Highsec is designed to be vastly safer than lowsec....it's pretty insane to think otherwise.

Those two letters are the crux of this whole issue.

"Safer" is not the same as "safe".

PvP can happen anywhere in EvE from the time you log in until the time you log out.

This is by design, and I think it would be to EvE's detriment were to CCP implement actual "PvP-free" zones.


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.



good lord where was that stated?? Link please.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Dsparil Mal
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2015-01-30 20:17:06 UTC
Wow. Eve really is turning into WoW. Only problem is, with all the hand-holding EVE is going to be doing, it isn't going to be nearly as fun as WoW.

CCP needs to quite catering to stupid people. Get bent.

Erotica 1 for CSM 9!
Dsparil Mal
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2015-01-30 20:17:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Dsparil Mal
Light Sigh No wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Highsec is designed to be vastly safer than lowsec....it's pretty insane to think otherwise.

Those two letters are the crux of this whole issue.

"Safer" is not the same as "safe".

PvP can happen anywhere in EvE from the time you log in until the time you log out.

This is by design, and I think it would be to EvE's detriment were to CCP implement actual "PvP-free" zones.


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.



if that happens I will be leaving EVE. That is what made this game fun. I have ZERO interest in nullsec pvp and low sec piracy is at an all time low. This sucks too. I put a lot of effort and work in to this game, especially with six accounts. Oh well. All good things come to an end I guess.

Erotica 1 for CSM 9!
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#65 - 2015-01-30 20:24:40 UTC
Light Sigh No wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Highsec is designed to be vastly safer than lowsec....it's pretty insane to think otherwise.

Those two letters are the crux of this whole issue.

"Safer" is not the same as "safe".

PvP can happen anywhere in EvE from the time you log in until the time you log out.

This is by design, and I think it would be to EvE's detriment were to CCP implement actual "PvP-free" zones.


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Or, in layman's terms, link or it didn't happen.


If CCP really does remove all combat from hisec they will effectively kill the game. I wouldn't keep playing, and neither would many of the folks I know.

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Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#66 - 2015-01-30 20:54:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
Light Sigh No wrote:
It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.
Citation needed.

If this ever comes to pass it will show that CCP learnt precisely jack from Incarna in 2011, and probably kill their reputation, credibility and future as developers.

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Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2015-01-30 21:12:06 UTC
Light Sigh No wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Highsec is designed to be vastly safer than lowsec....it's pretty insane to think otherwise.

Those two letters are the crux of this whole issue.

"Safer" is not the same as "safe".

PvP can happen anywhere in EvE from the time you log in until the time you log out.

This is by design, and I think it would be to EvE's detriment were to CCP implement actual "PvP-free" zones.


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


Is this like some super secret CSM winter minutes info?
Interfectorem Tacet
Doomheim
#68 - 2015-01-30 21:19:55 UTC
Light Sigh No wrote:


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


Link please or are you just trolling for effect?
Orlacc
#69 - 2015-01-30 21:30:44 UTC
Interfectorem Tacet wrote:
Light Sigh No wrote:


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


Link please or are you just trolling for effect?



Spring release is called "Trammel." Need more proof?

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2015-01-30 21:37:48 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Interfectorem Tacet wrote:
Light Sigh No wrote:


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


Link please or are you just trolling for effect?



Spring release is called "Trammel." Need more proof?


Im sure there will be a summer release entitled "Carebear".
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#71 - 2015-01-30 22:01:44 UTC
Solonius Rex wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
Interfectorem Tacet wrote:
Light Sigh No wrote:


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


Link please or are you just trolling for effect?



Spring release is called "Trammel." Need more proof?


Im sure there will be a summer release entitled "Carebear".
Followed by a winter release named Terminus

ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2015-01-30 22:07:04 UTC
I are sad you takey away my awox.

:'(
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2015-01-31 01:43:44 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
Interfectorem Tacet wrote:
Light Sigh No wrote:


It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


Link please or are you just trolling for effect?



Spring release is called "Trammel." Need more proof?


Im sure there will be a summer release entitled "Carebear".
Followed by a winter release named Terminus


Nah, thats the fall release. Winter release will be named "Hello kitty space adventure".
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2015-01-31 01:49:58 UTC
Something that will be hilarious: people who join corps with FF turned off and people who recruit with FF turned off who will legitimately think "well at least I'm safe from my corpmates now"

And for the love of god, no, there has been no mention of removing all combat from highsec and making it 100% safe. Stop feeding the troll, guys.
Drez Arthie
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2015-01-31 05:23:10 UTC
Quote:
It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


That's hard to believe. Maybe it was 0.8 and above or something .. and only a far-fetched proposal at that?
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2015-01-31 06:34:58 UTC
Drez Arthie wrote:
Quote:
It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


That's hard to believe. Maybe it was 0.8 and above or something .. and only a far-fetched proposal at that?

Even .8 is hard to believe. Id say 1.0, since they contain the newbie systems. Im not aware of any non-newbie 1.0 systems, though. But it would still make the most sense.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#77 - 2015-01-31 07:01:04 UTC
Solonius Rex wrote:
Drez Arthie wrote:
Quote:
It has already been stated that they intend to remove all combat from highsec (0.5 and above) sometime mid this year. No wardecs, no duels, no ability to attack anyone else. To do that you must go to 0.4 and below. This is the new order of high sec, bears win.


That's hard to believe. Maybe it was 0.8 and above or something .. and only a far-fetched proposal at that?

Even .8 is hard to believe. Id say 1.0, since they contain the newbie systems. Im not aware of any non-newbie 1.0 systems, though. But it would still make the most sense.

There are plenty. In fact, Amarr is a really good example of one.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2015-01-31 10:51:47 UTC
Personally I think the threat of awoxing is just counterproductive to the promotion of what eve is all about: community.

If you're so worried as a recruiter that you simply cannot recruit x person because of the threat of an awox then you limit your choices immensely and you miss out on potentially great corp members.

The high end corporate espionage should and will exist, that requires effort and months, even years, of planning.

But joining a corp and then shooting someone requires little to no effort, thus should be removed to encourage community.

Art of Explosions
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#79 - 2015-01-31 10:54:50 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Personally I think the threat of awoxing is just counterproductive to the promotion of what eve is all about: community.

If you're so worried as a recruiter that you simply cannot recruit x person because of the threat of an awox then you limit your choices immensely and you miss out on potentially great corp members.

The high end corporate espionage should and will exist, that requires effort and months, even years, of planning.

But joining a corp and then shooting someone requires little to no effort, thus should be removed to encourage community.

So awoxing is this big great danger to recruitment, but war spies aren't?

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2015-01-31 11:00:21 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Personally I think the threat of awoxing is just counterproductive to the promotion of what eve is all about: community.

If you're so worried as a recruiter that you simply cannot recruit x person because of the threat of an awox then you limit your choices immensely and you miss out on potentially great corp members.

The high end corporate espionage should and will exist, that requires effort and months, even years, of planning.

But joining a corp and then shooting someone requires little to no effort, thus should be removed to encourage community.

So awoxing is this big great danger to recruitment, but war spies aren't?


war spies you cant stop with mechanics, awoxing you can.

Art of Explosions