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Opinions on my T3 Tengu Fit
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Harry Kashuken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-28 05:37:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Kashuken
Hello

Im looking for opinions on my T3 Tengu Fit. I primarily want to use this as a PvP roam ship with my corp buddies. I don't plan to use any implants on this character.

PYFA Stats
http://imgur.com/uOS1jwN

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Offensive - Rifling Launcher Pattern
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Mjolnir Fury Light Missile x10000
Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-01-28 05:53:50 UTC
Rapid lights have crap for reload. If it ain't dead before you reload, you almost certainly will be.

Large shield extender will increase your sig radius (easier to target and easier to hit) which hurts the idea of speed tanking.

Set up looks like it's meant to obliterate drugs and Dessie's and the occasional cruiser.

If you encounter anything BC and above, it will have the advantage. Cruiser games would be on par.

You say you go with buddies, fit your ship according to how they fit theirs. That will offer the best advice from us.

tengu isn't too popular in pvp though. Compared to the other T3s. Anything fast and moderate range will be near invincible to you. So beware.
Harry Kashuken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-01-28 06:07:41 UTC
Brylan Grey wrote:
Rapid lights have crap for reload. If it ain't dead before you reload, you almost certainly will be.

Large shield extender will increase your sig radius (easier to target and easier to hit) which hurts the idea of speed tanking.

Set up looks like it's meant to obliterate drugs and Dessie's and the occasional cruiser.

If you encounter anything BC and above, it will have the advantage. Cruiser games would be on par.

You say you go with buddies, fit your ship according to how they fit theirs. That will offer the best advice from us.

tengu isn't too popular in pvp though. Compared to the other T3s. Anything fast and moderate range will be near invincible to you. So beware.


Yeah i went with the rapid lights mostly due to range and i wanted to be able to kill pesky interceptors. Would you say T2 heavys/HAM's are a must? Like i said this is mostly for roams where we have a scout so i doubt i will ever face off with a Battleship or some crazy gate camp.

Worst case im see'ing myself run into is another T3.

Might as well consider the fit as a solo PvP. The roams are normally just the late night mostly unorganized aside from "Everyone warp here and shoot this".
Chris Winter
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-01-28 08:18:09 UTC
Rifling launcher pattern is the wrong offensive subsystem to use. It's for ECM, and you're not using any ECM. You want to use the Accelerated Ejection Bay subsystem, and you probably want to use kinetic (scourge) missiles instead of mjolnir.

Your fit gets 584 dps if you include drones, which you didn't. Accelerated ejection bay with scourge fury gets 736 and you don't have to worry about drones.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#5 - 2015-01-28 08:39:04 UTC
Brylan Grey wrote:
tengu isn't too popular in pvp though.....


Aha, so THAT explains why CFC, BL, PL, NC. (and others) all have Tengu fleet doctrines.

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Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#6 - 2015-01-28 10:55:43 UTC
Don't roam with a 10MN AB unless your gang is specifically tailored around AB ships. And, unless you really, really want to use a tengu, i would recommend that you run approximatively the same setup (with a MWD) on a Cerberus.

Fly it like a RLML caracal, it's basically the same with more dps, range and tank, while being slightly less maneuverable.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-01-28 12:58:50 UTC
Would recommend using rails instead of rapid lights honestly.

Far more versatility and no giant reload time.

Art of Explosions
Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#8 - 2015-01-28 16:48:45 UTC
Except rails are clearly not tailored for anti-support...

It's like he wants to ride an harley, i'm suggesting him to go for a 125cc, and you're just telling him to buy a lawnmower.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-01-28 19:34:40 UTC
Tung Yoggi wrote:
Except rails are clearly not tailored for anti-support...

It's like he wants to ride an harley, i'm suggesting him to go for a 125cc, and you're just telling him to buy a lawnmower.


why is that?

Art of Explosions
Orlacc
#10 - 2015-01-28 20:44:25 UTC
Chris Winter wrote:
Rifling launcher pattern is the wrong offensive subsystem to use. It's for ECM, and you're not using any ECM. You want to use the Accelerated Ejection Bay subsystem, and you probably want to use kinetic (scourge) missiles instead of mjolnir.

Your fit gets 584 dps if you include drones, which you didn't. Accelerated ejection bay with scourge fury gets 736 and you don't have to worry about drones.



Just do this if you want to use rapid lights.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#11 - 2015-01-29 09:52:40 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Tung Yoggi wrote:
Except rails are clearly not tailored for anti-support...

It's like he wants to ride an harley, i'm suggesting him to go for a 125cc, and you're just telling him to buy a lawnmower.


why is that?


In his second post, OP mentions that he wants rapid lights to kill inties.