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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1741 - 2015-07-18 17:49:05 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
So tl;dr you have no reasoning and it can be safely assumed you are a troll and your posts can be disregarded. Gotcha.
You use the defense of the weak. While you see it as disregarding, actually it's nothing more but ignorance and running away.
That might hold water if it wasn't directly following you choosing to ignore a post with actual content. There is no good way to respond to trolls with nothing to say. I on the other hand pointed out why CCP chooses to embrace the primary gaming market and why previous generation games are irrelevant and you failed to respond to that. Any time you want to jump back on topic, feel free.

Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
This thread needs some comic relief, enjoy.
This isn't actually funny, you know? Is this the message we want to transport? We're all a bunch of idiots, constantly whining and insulting everyone? Congratulations! RollRoll
This is EVE.

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Paranoid Loyd
#1742 - 2015-07-18 18:00:03 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
This thread needs some comic relief, enjoy.

This isn't actually funny, you know? Is this the message we want to transport? We're all a bunch of idiots, constantly whining and insulting everyone? Congratulations! RollRoll


If you really care that much about what uninformed people think about you, then I feel sorry for you.

This video shows EVE is real, and people get really ******* passionate about their internet space pixels to the point they make complete asses of themselves.

It is both comical and beautiful at the same time. It is why we all love EVE. Content.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1743 - 2015-07-18 18:06:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
This thread needs some comic relief, enjoy.

This isn't actually funny, you know? Is this the message we want to transport? We're all a bunch of idiots, constantly whining and insulting everyone? Congratulations! RollRoll


If you really care that much about what uninformed people think about you, then I feel sorry for you.

This video shows EVE is real, and people get really ******* passionate about their internet space pixels to the point they make complete asses of themselves.

It is both comical and beautiful at the same time. It is why we all love EVE. Content.

Uninformed people are the ones we want to get into the game. No?
Everyone who knows it either is already here or doesn't play it. Or do you disagree?

You're all addicts to your own amusement. This video is ****. It's childish. It's immature. If you want more of these idiots around, then please go ahead and make more of them! That's NOT going to decrease the whining though! It won't make EVE a better place! It won't make highsec any less safer! On the contrary!

What this video shows to all the yet uninformed, actually mature and actually intelligent people who might want to play, is that we're all a bunch of whining, insulting, dickwaving idiots!

If YOU prefer THESE kinds of people, then get ready for even more whining from instant gratification shitlords and more whining about gankers, because it's THESE people who will cry out loud for CCP to kill the game for them!



Congratulations to you just as much!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Kandu Harr
Doomheim
#1744 - 2015-07-18 18:10:23 UTC
trolloling in eve - priceless
in a ccp falcon thread? - Ugh

topic? its mentioned up at the top, btw.
Paranoid Loyd
#1745 - 2015-07-18 18:23:27 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
This thread needs some comic relief, enjoy.

This isn't actually funny, you know? Is this the message we want to transport? We're all a bunch of idiots, constantly whining and insulting everyone? Congratulations! RollRoll


If you really care that much about what uninformed people think about you, then I feel sorry for you.

This video shows EVE is real, and people get really ******* passionate about their internet space pixels to the point they make complete asses of themselves.

It is both comical and beautiful at the same time. It is why we all love EVE. Content.

Uninformed people are the ones we want to get into the game. No?
Everyone who knows it either is already here or doesn't play it. Or do you disagree?

You're all addicts to your own amusement. This video is ****. It's childish. It's immature. If you want more of these idiots around, then please go ahead and make more of them! That's NOT going to decrease the whining though! It won't make EVE a better place! It won't make highsec any less safer! On the contrary!

What this video shows to all the yet uninformed, actually mature and actually intelligent people who might want to play, is that we're all a bunch of whining, insulting, dickwaving idiots!

If YOU prefer THESE kinds of people, then get ready for even more whining from instant gratification shitlords and more whining about gankers, because it's THESE people who will cry out loud for CCP to kill the game for them!



Congratulations to you just as much!

If you think this video will have any discernible influence over the type of people that decide to play EVE you are a fool.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Jenshae Chiroptera
#1746 - 2015-07-18 19:11:54 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
...Congratulations ...
... you are a fool.
Don't they make such a lovely pair?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1747 - 2015-07-18 19:17:04 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
If YOU prefer THESE kinds of people, then get ready for even more whining from instant gratification shitlords and more whining about gankers, because it's THESE people who will cry out loud for CCP to kill the game for them!
Personally, if it's a choice between THESE kinds of people and people like yourself, you lose every single time.

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Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1748 - 2015-07-18 19:34:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
This thread needs some comic relief, enjoy.

This isn't actually funny, you know? Is this the message we want to transport? We're all a bunch of idiots, constantly whining and insulting everyone? Congratulations! RollRoll


If you really care that much about what uninformed people think about you, then I feel sorry for you.

This video shows EVE is real, and people get really ******* passionate about their internet space pixels to the point they make complete asses of themselves.

It is both comical and beautiful at the same time. It is why we all love EVE. Content.

Uninformed people are the ones we want to get into the game. No?
Everyone who knows it either is already here or doesn't play it. Or do you disagree?

You're all addicts to your own amusement. This video is ****. It's childish. It's immature. If you want more of these idiots around, then please go ahead and make more of them! That's NOT going to decrease the whining though! It won't make EVE a better place! It won't make highsec any less safer! On the contrary!

What this video shows to all the yet uninformed, actually mature and actually intelligent people who might want to play, is that we're all a bunch of whining, insulting, dickwaving idiots!

If YOU prefer THESE kinds of people, then get ready for even more whining from instant gratification shitlords and more whining about gankers, because it's THESE people who will cry out loud for CCP to kill the game for them!



Congratulations to you just as much!

If you think this video will have any discernible influence over the type of people that decide to play EVE you are a fool.
If you think that no one watches this, shakes his head and just drops the idea of joining this game, then fools are you and me both!

Seriously could you just THINK about how awesome this game were if we had actually SMART people around? Not the idiots we have now, plus even more idiots coming from reddit and Wow! No! Smart people, who do not whine and rage, but instead figure out how to fight back!

THIS definitely isn't helping, just like reddit isn't helping and every single one who cheers this stupid video isn't helping either! Please just CONSIDER what outside people must think of us! Not just idiots, but the actually SMART ones!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1749 - 2015-07-18 19:35:20 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
If YOU prefer THESE kinds of people, then get ready for even more whining from instant gratification shitlords and more whining about gankers, because it's THESE people who will cry out loud for CCP to kill the game for them!
Personally, if it's a choice between THESE kinds of people and people like yourself, you lose every single time.
*pats your head* Get yourself a mirror.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Paranoid Loyd
#1750 - 2015-07-18 20:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
SMART
You keep using this word and I am starting to think you don't know what it means.

A smart person would not take a single video that is clearly a parody and base his decision as to whether or not to play a video game solely off the parody.

Nor would a smart person think that a sample of a few idiots in said parody would accurately represent an entire player base.

Nor would a smart person think that smart people don't get passionate and say or do dumb things on occasion.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Jenshae Chiroptera
#1751 - 2015-07-18 20:19:18 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
SMART
A smart ... a smart ... a smart ... that smart ....
Yay smarties!Big smile
I am sure you can manage to be more concise. Blink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#1752 - 2015-07-18 20:46:17 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
You're all addicts to your own amusement. This video is ****. It's childish. It's immature. If you want more of these idiots around, then please go ahead and make more of them! That's NOT going to decrease the whining though! It won't make EVE a better place! It won't make highsec any less safer! On the contrary!

What this video shows to all the yet uninformed, actually mature and actually intelligent people who might want to play, is that we're all a bunch of whining, insulting, dickwaving idiots!

If YOU prefer THESE kinds of people, then get ready for even more whining from instant gratification shitlords and more whining about gankers, because it's THESE people who will cry out loud for CCP to kill the game for them!


Yes, if there's anyone out to make high sec safer and destroy the game, it's Shadoo, progodlegend, Makalu Zarya, Grath Telkin, and Garmon (and I'm sure I'm missing a couple). Worthless scrubs, all of them. Never did anything for the game. Right?

The raging FC isn't my personal thing either, but you're way, way off base here.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#1753 - 2015-07-18 20:57:50 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
... The raging FC isn't my personal thing either, but you're way, way off base here.
I think their point is more about the audience that will find this amusing.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1754 - 2015-07-18 21:42:25 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
SMART
A smart ... a smart ... a smart ... that smart ....
Yay smarties!Big smile
I am sure you can manage to be more concise. Blink
Okay okay, I could ALSO increase my vocabulary! Lol

And yes, you're right.


I have no idea, Dersen Lowery, why you mention the names of the people who talk. That is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the listener, who does not know them anyway! He will also not look them up, unless he finds this kind of **** amusing!


Hey, we can actually test this!


Could you PLEASE assume the perspective of a complete stranger?
Could you also PLEASE assume that the complete stranger has NO inside or outside knowledge of EVE ONLINE?

What would HE think about this video?



If your response is equal to yours, then I'm sorry, you failed the task!


Try a different one!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1755 - 2015-07-18 21:54:26 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Could you PLEASE assume the perspective of a complete stranger?
Could you also PLEASE assume that the complete stranger has NO inside or outside knowledge of EVE ONLINE?

What would HE think about this video?
You're right, he'd get the impression that EVE has a vast number of players hat take the game way too seriously and get super angry with it. That's the right impression, because that's EVE. You're the one harping on about all the "peasants" that dare to come to EVE expecting fun, yet you're complaining that a video is showing all these people taking the game too seriously because they treat EVE like a career choice. If anything this video is more accurate to what being in a fleet in this game is normally like than the original this is eve trailer. It would be more accurate if absolutely nothing was happening while a fleet orbited a gate, a station undock, or in more recent times random control nodes.

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#1756 - 2015-07-18 22:54:25 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:
It stands to reason then, to have CONCORD preloaded on grid while mining as a legitimate tactic right? I mean the attacking ship does get killed, as expected, and concord remains on grid, as desired. I paid the price of having concord on my selected grid, and thus I'm not abusing game mechanics. Right?


Was this ever an exploit?

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Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1757 - 2015-07-18 23:21:00 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
It stands to reason then, to have CONCORD preloaded on grid while mining as a legitimate tactic right? I mean the attacking ship does get killed, as expected, and concord remains on grid, as desired. I paid the price of having concord on my selected grid, and thus I'm not abusing game mechanics. Right?


Was this ever an exploit?
No, never has been. Carebears spawn CONCORD just like gankers remove CONCORD. Or carebears don't spawn CONCORD, because they're carebears and make it even less of a hassle for the gankers.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1758 - 2015-07-18 23:41:52 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Could you PLEASE assume the perspective of a complete stranger?
Could you also PLEASE assume that the complete stranger has NO inside or outside knowledge of EVE ONLINE?

What would HE think about this video?
You're right, he'd get the impression that EVE has a vast number of players hat take the game way too seriously and get super angry with it. That's the right impression, because that's EVE. You're the one harping on about all the "peasants" that dare to come to EVE expecting fun, yet you're complaining that a video is showing all these people taking the game too seriously because they treat EVE like a career choice. If anything this video is more accurate to what being in a fleet in this game is normally like than the original this is eve trailer. It would be more accurate if absolutely nothing was happening while a fleet orbited a gate, a station undock, or in more recent times random control nodes.

So angry and useless.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Lady Areola Fappington
#1759 - 2015-07-19 00:44:45 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
It stands to reason then, to have CONCORD preloaded on grid while mining as a legitimate tactic right? I mean the attacking ship does get killed, as expected, and concord remains on grid, as desired. I paid the price of having concord on my selected grid, and thus I'm not abusing game mechanics. Right?


Was this ever an exploit?
No, never has been. Carebears spawn CONCORD just like gankers remove CONCORD. Or carebears don't spawn CONCORD, because they're carebears and make it even less of a hassle for the gankers.[/quote]


At one time, It was thought that preloading CONCORD on a grid was considered an exploit. There had been some ambiguous rulings from GMs, so there was confusion.

CODE used it's elite contact channels with the senior GMS and devs (via pressing F12 and asking) to get a definitive ruling.

Spawning Concord on grid to act as a bodyguard is not against ToS/EULA.


Now, on the flipside of that, anyone recommending that you spawn Concord for protection has utterly no clue how ganking works, and is spinning a load of BS. Concord existing anywhere in system actually makes subsequent concord responses slower. One of the first things done to prep a system for ganking is to spawn concord, then drag them off to a remote corner of the system. All pre-spawning Concord does is give the gankers that much more time to pull off a gank.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#1760 - 2015-07-19 00:45:54 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Decoy
I have removed a couple posts and those quoting them.

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Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.

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