EVE General Discussion

if you think for a bit you can find out that hyperdunking is actually easily counterable even after the initial bump

its called "handing you enough rope to hang your selves with" I don't know that I agree but it is possible, and who exactly will be to blame in the end? if you don't like how CCP "fixes" things might I suggest you all quit making it your business to push 10+ year old game mechanics to the breaking point then maybe CCP wont be forced to make changes in order to preserve their income stream.

The Cruor is also a nice choice as you train up to the Hyena, as it also uses the Minmatar Frigate skill and that's the skill which affects webbing range. You'll use an extra 8 hours on Amarr Frigate, but it'll mean you can consistently get better and better web range as you go up to Minmatar Frigate V, and have a fairly decent webber as you get the Electronic Attack Ships skill trained up (which requires Long Range Targeting V).

Additionally, one thing people miss about having an alt is that you can always use it for scouting. I've been saved many times while moving my Orca around because I'll have my webbing alt go ahead of the Orca - while the Orca sits at a safe - and found that the other gate had one or more Machariels or Stabbers on it. This combined with Dotlan's various tools - before I undock on a long trip I'll both run the route through it's planner, giving me the number of recent kills, as well as activate the Radar feature so I can see what the activity in the systems near me are - mean that I've never actually had the opportunity to test some other defensive ideas against ganks, simply because I've managed to avoid them. The trick to not getting suicide ganked is very simply being aware of your surroundings, as you really should be for anything you do in the game.

If a guy is regularly doing this you can probe the bowhead/orca he is reshipping from (off-grid) and then smartbomb his pod or steal his catalysts with your own pods

Yes, just MJD away as the pointer is concordokken, fit a Higgs anchor and off you go.

Oh wait.

You guys know there's a difference between being afk and not having an alt, right? Because it sure doesn't read like it.

That's just corp theft.



That's just piracy.




And that's just spying and wardeccing.

None of those things are awoxing.




Ah yes, and the people who want to have friendly fire removed with the push of one button are totally indicative of effort, and such. Oh, no wait, they're the ones who want to have literally any burden of their own totally removed with the push of one button.

You are such an enormous hypocrite.

RIP higsec hauling.

Cost of suicide gank on higsec freighter just dropped to at most 1/10 of current value.
No more need of sharing dropped stuff with any one - makes 500mil freighters worth killing.
Tanked Orca any one?
You build freighters? Start killing empty ones for the cost of few catalist - you will earn much more on each freighter you sell.

The only safer hauling methods will be JF and tons of cyno alts in lowsec around the route or hire escort ships that will guard your freighter! So more work for new players.

I'm happy about this change.
People will finally move to safety of nullsec where you can shoot any one , and you don't need to count on broken CONCORD.

+1 CCP, good policy change.

Now pls focus on nullsec and sov changes.

All of those things are part of the same playstyle. If your playstyle is limited to "join corp - shoot ship - repeat" maybe the problem is you. And strictly speaking, Awoxing is pointing a green ship while reds come and blow it up in null. It's definition has generally been extended to mean any planned form of action against your own corp however.

I never said it was effort, but what it provides as a benefit far outweighs the cost that it imposes. Following the change there will no longer be a risk barrier preventing day old noobs being invited into any corp, which is vitally important in getting new players into a group where they can learn the game and find what they want to do which is vitally important for the NPE. If the only downside to that is people like you getting upset because you can't do the easiest form of awoxing, I can live with that.

With the exception of that stuff you listed. Corp thefts and spying chief among them.

That's what exposes it as a false flag, that it actually does nothing to accomplish it's intended purpose.





Which is apparently tax farm slumlord highsec corps. Yeah, I can't think of a worse way to hurt retention than to allow those people to operate more safely, so they can poison new players with the most boring content in any contemporary MMO.