Intergalactic Summit

Looks like it.

This is why we choose to live in the Gallente Federation, where we can debate and exchange ideas without having to kill each other.

Unlike you Amarr, whom after all this time, still appear to be living in the dark ages.


But hey, tell the Empress I said Hi.

Put too much power in one place and it will attract the worst people. The Federation is not federal enough.

My best hope is that it becomes so unstable that Intaki go back to being independent. Not that I think my home world would improve much. It's simply better to have more separation between people and their voting habits.

Maybe you should remind your empress how that process is supposed to work since, well...she kind of cheated and cloned herself then faked her death rather than actually commit suicide after losing the trials.

Oh well, I guess maybe she didn't really trust in your god's verdict and took matters into her own hands, eh? What does that say for your supposedly most pious and faithful ruler?

If I'm mistaken about the ILF's activities during the Heth regime, perhaps you'll enlighten me. What opposition did you offer? Even your allies in I-RED, Liberal though they may be, bear a share of responsibility for the consequences of Heth's time in power.

But then, one should Caldari Citizens to a different standard on these matters. I have been most willing to move past the legacy of Heth's crimes in building common ground with those State Loyalists who in the end renounced his regime.

You, on the other hand, are not a Citizen of the Caldari State. Neither is DocHoliday. In his case, he chose common cause with the Caldari during a time of war against his homeland. Whatever he says about "opposing" Heth, he and his corporation members were hardly dissidents, and every tax and fee they paid into State coffers was ammunition for Provist oppression of Gallente hostages on Caldari Prime.

As for listening to Intaki Seperatists, here's where I stand. If Corporal Sotken wants to bend my ear on the subject of further autonomy from the Federation, I'll buy her drinks while we discuss it. That goes for any of her comrades in the Viriette Legion. Their service and sacrifice is proof enough to me that they know oppression when they see it, and will not see Intaki delivered to the hands of Tyrants.

When the ILF continued to call for secession from the Federation even in the midst of an invasion by the Provists... that's when I'd heard enough from your organization. Hell, its not even that I haven't listened. Its that ya'll still sound the same as ever.

Indeed, there should always be room for discussion. I enjoy discussion almost as much as I enjoy exchanging blaster fire.

Many Caldari misunderstand the finer details of Democracy as practiced in the Federation. I'm happy to explain the system that I support further.

As it stands the Intaki people, represented by the Intaki Assembly, joined the Federal Union through a democratic process. Under the charter of the Federation they elect both their local governments as well as who they choose for the Federal Senate. Citizens of Intaki descent are free to live and vote anywhere within our borders, and you should understand that many millions of Intaki choose to do so. Thus, a Citizen of Intaki birth might live and work on the Crystal Boulevard of Caille where they would vote as a resident of Gallente Prime on issues of local and planetary importance... while at the same time voting with concern to how Intaki issues are handled by the Federation.

Now, similarly someone like myself, being of Gallente ethnic descent might decide to move to the Intaki Homeworld. I could start a business there, even register to vote as a local resident in exactly the same manner. This is how our democracy and free society functions.

So, on to the question of Secession? There has been no democratic process whereby the Intaki Assembly, or any other representative elected body of the Intaki People, have voted to secede from the Federal Union. For me to consider Intaki Separatists' agenda legitimately representative of the will of the Intaki People, this would be the first step.

Admittedly, if such a process were to be undertaken during the current state of War I would be extremely concerned with the validity of any result. Not only would the process be subject to intimidation and interference by the Caldari... I believe that Separatists would have legitimate fear of reprisal from Ultranationalists within the Federation. Furthermore, I do not currently trust the Caldari State not to take Intaki System by force if they were not members of the Federation. Mssr Baatav may claim that he would oppose Caldari domination as strenuously as he opposes Federal rule, but unfortunately for him I do not believe that the State would be so tolerant of his politics as we have been.

And so, hope for change dies once more...

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-roden-success-in-bid-for-second-term/

"When you trade freedom for security, you deserve neither"

I can confirm that we would NOT. Once a territory elects to join the State (through whatever means) it would need to be affiliated with one of the Mega Corporations in some manner (perhaps as a Client state under Ishukone, for example). The amount of local independence would be determined by it's charter of incorporation at that time and any renegotiation of terms would strictly be between the governing body of the Client State (As laid down in it's charter) and Ishukone's board of directors (Who may delegate the decision to a Corporate Officer, leave it to a vote of the Executive or full Board of Directors or else put it up for a wider Shareholder's Vote).

It's not exactly a decision by fiat, but it is worth pointing out that a significant shareholder of Ishukone in the Lonetrek region would have far more of a say than a native Intaki citizen who owned no shares. A native Intaki citizen living in the Client State who also happened to be a major shareholder would, of course, have the most sway, having a vote from both ends. I imagine Conflict of Interest policy would come into play at some point, however.

Anyway, the lovely Ms Vero is right in the sense that we would not feel that rabble rousing, armed resistance or similar activities were protected behaviour (unless the charter drawn up at incorporation provided for this specifically) but she is wrong in that the State as a whole (a nebulous concept in any case) would NOT take an interest in what would be Ishukone business.

I believe those wheels just got a lot more wobbly.

I suppose the best thing to do is keep an open mind and give the man a chance. Let him make his name by his actions, now.