Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Most likely they'll be a rail tweak done. The rocket caldari destroyer sounds fun, but people will still just straight out fit light missiles if given the option (the speed and benefits could outweigh the lack of bonuses). If there was a way to get rockets out to 15 to 20 k, and keep light missiles so horribly removed from the destroyer, sure.

That won't happen though. Would having 2 hybrid platform destroyers really work though? Dunno. They may have to completely re look at hybrid guns at both the small and medium range.

If by some miracle they are able to dedicate that ship to a rocket platform, and make it so appealing that people won't bother with light missiles, maybe, but people will still go pretty ape when the players fit a lml t3 destroyer nailing people at 40 to 50 km, with pretty much total immunity from being tackled by frigates and other destroyers.

The lml option is too strong the for the destroyer. The rockets are better but still presents the issue of having launchers put in the highs.

It's funny, I started four years ago and wound up cross-training heavily into turrets, despite trying to keep my primary focus on missiles. I have better turret skills than missile skills, and while I can use battleship size T2 projectiles and lasers, I can't use battleship missiles. This habit largely came up because of the relative lack of missile boats, though CCP is doing well when it comes to adding new ones.

So far the T3 destroyers have been focused on the main weapon types for each race. Amarr got lasers, not drones. Minmatar got projectiles (specifically artillery, which feels a little strange, but whatever), not missiles. Caldari are likely to get missiles, as that is their main weapon system, rather than railguns, which are not their main weapon system. Gallente are a bit more chancy, with drones and blasters both being very important for the race, but I think CCP will go with blasters with the possibility for a small drone contingency (sharpshooter mode gives a bonus to drone mwd speed and optimal range maybe?). Then again, giving Gallente much of a drone focus can hamper them from taking advantage of the unique bonuses that many wormholes provide, a similar problem that would face a railgun Caldari T3 destroyer.

At any rate, though, like others have stated I'll be disappointed if the Caldari get a railgun T3 destroyer, I don't want a stuation similar to the Naga and Talos. Not to mention that the theme of T3 destroyers is to roam around through WHs with a mobile depot and mobile tractor unit. However, I do see the problem that missiles would have, in that they don't get the benefits of a Wolf-Rayet system like railguns would (not to mention the shield-tanked focus of Caldari being decimated in these WHs too, so that would leave the Caldari T3 destroyer all alone in WHs that it's suited for and the others are not). But really, railguns are not very conducive to solo PvP or PvE, and a Wolf-Rayet would harm the tank on a Caldari T3 destroyer significantly.

Caldari T3 destroyers will likely be best suited to Pulsar WHs and Black Hole WHs, or otherwise need to be given some role bonus so that the WHs the other T3 destroyers are suited for doesn't leave them crippled.

You hit the nail on the head. T3 destroyers aren't fleet ships, they're solo or small gang ships. Rail destroyer will be awful.

they are, that's why MOA dose corm fleets when we're board and out of cash. but even than, if you have enough insta lock sniper corms you could nuke through a kiting ships buffer before a logi ship can lock it.

anyway nerfing in atocannons in to the ground did not make blasters good all the sudden, they're still 100 percent screwed when faced by anything faster than them, and weapons that cannot project are generally awful for fleets.

that's why we're seeing shield buffer, rail gun fit thoraxes and ENIs

Because a thread has been made asking for a Missile-based Caldari destroyer... CCP will now make it a Hybrid-based one.

Cheers everyone!

Haha. Or torpedoes.

not when it comes to frigs/desis they arn't

just you know pretty much anything bigger that uses missiles

Please... Special missiles that shoot lasers while on flight.

Lets make it interesting:
- unbonused missiles
- bonus to jamming
- 1 low slot ::)

You should check out what merlins are able to do. Utterly hilarious.