Crime & Punishment

I don't have anything against CODE and quite frankly as a cloaky pilot that spends most of his time in w-space, lowsec and null I've been mostly ignorant about who the hell they were. What does annoy me is the constant bawing and whining from the carebear community that will write up tear infested "woe is me" threads. So i'm going to offer you people (yeah YOU PEOPLE I SAID IT) some advice the very same way I would one of my clients...but less nice because you aren't paying me.

I don't know if this will get moderated out but watch this video. Although we're not dealing with the specific issues outlined in the video, the concepts cross over. CODE numbers are smaller than that of all the highsec miners. They have organization, individual benefits, selective incentives, and a focus on what they want to do. Most of all this focus is based on co-operation with other members within their group.

Miners on the other hand don't really benefit from working together. Usually they are rivals over common resources. There's no personal incentive to "try to do something about CODE" other than some whiny waterworks show on a forum that'll get the writer ridiculed and laughed at. Someone except someone else to "do something about it" thus introducing the free-rider problem. So what can be done?

1. Quit making whiny bawfest threads that annoy me and make you look like an idiot. HTFU

2. Stop flying T2 mining vessels. You're in highsec ffs. There is literally no reason for you to fly a 200 mil mining vessel. It's like taking a Nightmare or Marauder out belt ratting in some 0.9 system. Put an ECM and/or T1 logi alt in belt with you and fit your mining ships for buffer so they can catch reps. Do it on your passive income PI/research/whatever you do account.

3. Gank the gankers. Gankers generally use cheap blasterfit catys to knock your mining vessels back into the ore field whence they came from. It's a question of economics. They lose a cheap ship while you lose a more expensive one. Solution? Fit a cheaper ship and gank their ganking ships. Seriously a gank caty has **** all for tank, you could do it in t1 frigates.

4. Now most of the miners are going to free ride regardless. Those people can go **** themselves. You need to find the half dozen other groups that have followed the above steps and pool some isk together and hire mercs. Which ones? Well it's a question of numbers really so with Marmite and Forsaken having the best mix of numbers, those two should cripple some of the mobility of CODE.

5. No one is going to solve your problems for you. That's why they're called YOUR problems. And no one's interested in turning Eve into a ****** theme park WoW-fest spaceship farmsville simulator. Some of the things spouted by some miners here is enough to make even non CODE members go gank you.


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inb4 locked because redundant thread

Quoted for truth.

Um.. wait.. I thought it was CODE. who were the sociopaths here..

Surely people like miners, who constantly make threads that call CODE. sociopaths, wouldn't in fact prove themselves to be the true sociopaths.. would they?!??!?!

yep, I'm not a ganker, but some of those carebear insults were so heavy that I remember ending up bumping those guys out of range when I had time... the results were quite satisfying, and yeah it was fun. when I get back I might even contact some large high sec groups to destroy a few care bear corps who annoy me with their arrogant and greedy attitude.

however, I still prefer ganker tears.

and I agree with the OP: there is a serious amount of whining threads regularly created in C&P by the gank-victim carebears. While some of them learn a lesson and tank their ships, others come to forums and cry. yet they have everything they need to avoid the ganks...

another thing I've noticed: those whining threads are quite similar to each other. even the replies are all similar because people end up replying in the same way. so similar that I have made the following observation with time:

a typical whining thread in C&P will usually go like this:

1) the carebear creates the thread with a long wall of text, involving not-so-stealth "Grr CODE", about why CONCORD should be buffed, ganking should be nerfed and all gankers are basement sociopaths who are real life murderers blah blah etc. etc.

(a quick killboard check of his character will usually show a very recent mining barge/orca loss to gankers. what a coincidence!)

2) Unsuccessful At Everything's reaction

3) Paranoid Loyd's reaction

4) loyalanon's reaction

5) Cannibal Kane's reaction

6) Jonah Gravenstein's reaction

7) Feyd Rautha Harkonnen's reaction



Did I forget somebody? Yeah I think I did..

8) Veers Belvar's reaction

9) thread locked.

<3 C&P

Seems pretty accurate.

It would only allow me to give you a +1 one for that post. Best laugh I've had in a week. Thank you!

Hey now....

Did you choose Obama because he is black and I am from Africa?

"You can't just ask somebody why they're white!"

I can only like this post once. So, I think I'm going to go donate some catalyst to Code in your honor.



Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.