These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Crime & Punishment

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Once an Awoxer, Always an Awoxer?

Author
Jackson Walsh
J.J. Walsh Contracting and Delivery LLC
#1 - 2015-01-23 03:31:49 UTC
So a former corp mate came forth to me for some advice, he's wondering if he's eternally locked down now that he awoxed a target just to see what it feels like. He's got extensive skills suiting his former Wormhole experience, but now that he's got that black mark he isn't able to find a new corporation.

Last night he was told this: "Look, I've got nothing for you. It's not a risk that I, or any other corporation out there would take. Even if you've turned a new leaf, even if you're serious about wanting to commit, there's no way you can join anything on that character. Your best bet would be to make a new account, come up with a dedicated training plan, and PLEX that account for a few months while it trains up. And then, never commit any AWOXing again. On this, or on your next account."

After a little more conversation, he recruiter mentioned that even if he was invited to join a corp, the most likely scenario would be that they killed him and took whatever he owned as a get-back.



Are there any corps that ever overlook Awoxing, or is he trapped?

(P.S. I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this. It was either here or the General Forum.)
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#2 - 2015-01-23 03:40:15 UTC
certainly no wormhole corps. He would be best off joining a few non wh corps for a bit

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-01-23 03:46:14 UTC
Jackson Walsh wrote:
now that he's got that black mark he isn't able to find a new corporation.

Quelle surprise.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2015-01-23 04:29:41 UTC
Fun Fact:

99% of posters who make threads on behalf of their "friend", are that friend.




Friends don't let friends post on their behalf.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-01-23 05:30:20 UTC
No real corps care if you kill or steal from highsec carebears. Or renters, really.

Wormhole corps can be touchy though.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#6 - 2015-01-23 05:36:51 UTC
Jackson Walsh wrote:
So a former corp mate came forth to me for some advice, he's wondering if he's eternally locked down now that he awoxed a target just to see what it feels like. He's got extensive skills suiting his former Wormhole experience, but now that he's got that black mark he isn't able to find a new corporation.


Mission Accomplished! They now know what awoxing feels like.

seriously, why did they expect?

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Jackson Walsh
J.J. Walsh Contracting and Delivery LLC
#7 - 2015-01-23 06:19:10 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Jackson Walsh wrote:
So a former corp mate came forth to me for some advice, he's wondering if he's eternally locked down now that he awoxed a target just to see what it feels like. He's got extensive skills suiting his former Wormhole experience, but now that he's got that black mark he isn't able to find a new corporation.


Mission Accomplished! They now know what awoxing feels like.

seriously, why did they expect?


He said he read something about CODE. and Safaris. Knowing CODE, he's an idiot. He might as well just join them at this point.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#8 - 2015-01-23 07:53:35 UTC
I can share some light on this since i am in the same situation . I've done some high sec carebear awoxing myself and because of it had troubles joining corps ... granted my long history doesnt help either :P


Fact is yes , generaly speaking once you start awoxing you limit yourself to the nr of corps that will take you , but it all comes down to each corps recruiter .

I have managed to join 2 different wh corps even after said awoxes , but at the same time i was true to the corps and did not commit any crime .


Thing is most people are afraid because they do not know any better and do not understand game mechanics to properly protect themselves ore undestand just how much they are at risk .


True story i've had hardcore low sec pvp corps turn me down just because of it .. i mean seriously what kind of a pvp corp is that if they are afraid of an high sec awoxer when the awoxer stands to loose more if he does awox .


Your best bet is to try to explain to the noobs taht you can't rly hurt them in situations A , B , C ( depending on where they live and how ) and to try and get some referals from other players that testity that you only awox people you do not care about and for fun .


Example of above : Say you wanna go to w-space , now if the corps is well established with segregated pos hangars then they are at no danger cause you cannot steal nor someone canno steal from you , furthermore the CEO is at full control cause he can aceess all hangars including yours .

Therefor if you choose to awox someone you stand to loose all your assets thus loosing alot more ( on paper ) . GRanted you could only bring crap + ur awoxing ship but if that happens he can see it before you attempt at any job . ITs not a perfect situatin and the smarter awoxer can acomplish his plan even with all of the above but it looks nice when you tell the recruiter they have all the POWER :) and you have a better chance in joining .



Just gotta outsmart them and if all else fails , be sure to call them noobs cause quite frankly , they are ..



Otherwise i recommend null sec / low sec , they tend to not care more if you awox or not .But to be honest for jus 1 kill .. i hardly see the the need to worry this much .

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#9 - 2015-01-23 08:34:03 UTC
Unless you're planning on just graduating the awox character to ganking afterwards, there isn't a whole lot you can do with them once their killboard has blue on blue on it.

Rep is important in this game. I publicly approve of awoxing and have done it a whole bunch of times, but even I don't **** where I live.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#10 - 2015-01-23 13:36:09 UTC
Trust is hard to come by in EVE. Unless you intend to have career as awoxer, doing that just to try it probably is not wise idea. I build my relationships on trust above anything. It is slow process which takes patience, but I think it is worth it. You can do amazing things once you have group of people who you know you can trust and who will have your back no matter how bad things are going. Those people also are the reason I keep logging on every day. More so than the game.

( ; _;) feelings.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#11 - 2015-01-23 13:43:50 UTC
Actually you should find it remarkably easy to get into corps in hisec, just spam the 'join corp' button.

I guarantee you will find SOMEBODY that will accept you.

I kid you not, there are players that state in their bio that they are awoxing bastards and get into corps.

Sometimes you need a cover story (They wanted me to buy a permit!! Those bastards!!) , sometimes not.

I find the old 'I bought this toon off the Bazaar' excuse works more often than not.

Also, it helps to hang out in the Rookie Channel.

Yes, its a cesspool, but that's what long showers are for.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#12 - 2015-01-23 13:46:12 UTC
Also , if nothing else, tell your friend to join my corp....we are all evil alt spais, awoxing scum, and such, so as long as he doesn't mind wearing a hamster suit he's in.

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-01-23 14:05:16 UTC
There are plenty of low sec, npc null sec and even sov owning corps that would accept an awoxer.
people that play to pvp don't mind losing ships and so have nothing to fear from awoxers.
your "friend" might not get many roles in such a corp though incase you/he wants to find out what theft feels like.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#14 - 2015-01-23 14:06:32 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Also , if nothing else, tell your friend to join my corp....we are all evil alt spais, awoxing scum, and such, so as long as he doesn't mind wearing a hamster suit he's in.

Bear

You totally need to form an alliance with a corp that references elderberries in the name. Totally.

To the OP: once you AWOX, you will likely have a hard time joining any corp that is really worth AWOXing. You could get into any number of new corps filled with new players and AWOX them all day, but what's the fun in that?

Relatively Notorious By Association

My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs

Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-01-23 14:50:03 UTC
Jackson Walsh wrote:
So a former corp mate came forth to me for some advice, he's wondering if he's eternally locked down now that he awoxed a target just to see what it feels like. He's got extensive skills suiting his former Wormhole experience, but now that he's got that black mark he isn't able to find a new corporation.

Last night he was told this: "Look, I've got nothing for you. It's not a risk that I, or any other corporation out there would take. Even if you've turned a new leaf, even if you're serious about wanting to commit, there's no way you can join anything on that character. Your best bet would be to make a new account, come up with a dedicated training plan, and PLEX that account for a few months while it trains up. And then, never commit any AWOXing again. On this, or on your next account."

After a little more conversation, he recruiter mentioned that even if he was invited to join a corp, the most likely scenario would be that they killed him and took whatever he owned as a get-back.



Are there any corps that ever overlook Awoxing, or is he trapped?

(P.S. I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this. It was either here or the General Forum.)


All of this will change once the Awox changes come in the upcoming patch... sigh...

Probably wont ever be accepted by a WH corp ever again, but regular highsec corps may accept him even if they know hes an awoxer thanks to that little change.

But i still dont get the point of awoxing in WH. I mean, why not just leave corp, use the info you collected and pew pew with a vengeance? Id understand if you needed to be in the corp to steal assets and stuff, but I dont really see the point in awoxing a WH corp.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#16 - 2015-01-23 15:21:51 UTC
Solonius Rex wrote:
Probably wont ever be accepted by a WH corp ever again, but regular highsec corps may accept him even if they know hes an awoxer thanks to that little change.



Personally I don't think the change is going to affect things much. CEO's who use it are the type to take the steps (background checks...) that make sure an awoxer would have a very difficult/boring time anyway.

I also have some wonderful idea's on how to use this 'safety switch' to do incredible, wonderful things.

Glorious things...;)

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#17 - 2015-01-23 15:30:59 UTC
What does your friend want to do in a Corp? Make isk.... Try faction warfare corps maybe. Otherwise mission or run wormhole sites on your own solo Corp.

PvP... Join RvB. If you annoy people or awox once in, you would be kicked, but we usually aren't that picky to stArt
start with.
Dreadchain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-01-23 16:14:55 UTC
I did some Awoxing on my main and never had any trouble. Shot some greens who were being complete and utter retards. More than once.

It's probably just the type of people you're trying to join.

www.minerbumping.com

Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-01-23 16:32:18 UTC
I would let Awox joing mine but you will never get anywhere in it and as its a one man corp there's nothing worth taking

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three

Jhousetlin Zamayid
#20 - 2015-01-23 18:14:46 UTC
This thread is full of lies.

The Infamous Xuixien The Great, Epic Space Cat and Queen of Rens, 1st Defender of Gaknem and Knight of the New Order in Good Standing and former CEO and Founder of AUT5M, who ran reverse safari non-stop for weeks, and has suicide ganked hundreds of miners in HiSec, was able to leave her past behind her and join a WH corp.

It all depends on who you try to join, and how upfront you are about it. 1 awox on your record? Please. Participate in Spectre Fleet for a few weeks and you'll have so much garbage on your KB that no one will even notice that one little green-on-green.
12Next page