Missions & Complexes

This is a sad thread.

Missions should have never been introduced to EVE.

Or they could move all pirate missions into lowsec, and make all hisec missions empire missions.

I'm not a real big fan of this, either. I mission for my combat game and after my last ordeal getting my Amarr/Caldari standings back up, taking these quasi-military missions just isn't my cup of tea anymore. I do marketing as well, and not being able to get in to Jita or Amarr without being attacked by the po po is a pain in the derriere mon ami.

I've often thought, what with this massive data processing capability we have, that it would be nice to have the choice of combating crime, or being an unofficial member of my faction's militia - especially when there already IS a militia I can choose to join, or not join. I think the organization of missions is somewhat lacking in this respect.

I am willing to accept the fact that no matter what, Amarr and Minmatar are at war, even though we're at peace...and my goverrnment needs to combat them under the table like a bunch of chickens...so as not to **** off...WHO? Who is this higher authority the Minmatar must answer to? Either way it's stretching things a bit.

If the Republic Fleet wishes to engage in military ops against Amarr, they have the means to do it without dragging poor, capsuleers like us into it on the sly. (And, if it were truly on the sly, our standings wouldn't take a HIT, 'cause who's ratting us out to the Amarrians and Caldari...our own PEOPLE? So much for hush hush.)

I'm happy to serve as a volunteer sherriff and rid the system of pirates and other criminals. I don't feel right being involved in affairs of state, then being hit in my ability to freely roam the galaxy due to doing favors for "my own people."

Get it?

I agree that lore is meaninless, but simply put, according to game design/ game mechanics, you cant have positive standing with everyone, the more you grow towards one faction the less others like you, thats why people do missions, to increase standing.

Now in the same game design, game mechanics approach you most decide to take a mission (meaning: accept the mission), if there were no limitations, you could simply decline till you get what you want, and complain that there isnt a better mission than worlds collide or blockade.

I think developers should revamp pve

they could make "rat belts" that respawn mobs constantly

or they could simply make agents behave with a neural network that helps them learn which missions you like and give you those more often.

I spam missions till i get good minerals then mine from them, because the system im in is always empty when i get home from work, and i hate when the game makes me go 1-2 jumps away because even if i complete the mission, i wont mine from those places, so, dont give me "the artifact" two jumps from home, that would improve things for me.

Stuff like that would be the "little things" of pve... that would make the game enjoyable.

The thing is once you have your faction/ corp standings high enough you can refuse as many missions in a row as you want and only run the missions you wish without ever really feeling it. At most its going to be half a dozen before you get one you want and with a tiny bit of RNG luck you will have recovered those losses in short order. I do it every day .

As far as removing the refusal penalty goes the mechanic is in place now with the new anomic missions.

The problem with the enemy faction kill missions is they simply are not worth doing period other than tags they reward you with nothing better than any non faction kill missions. Without incurring the wrath of all the super leet pvp gods ( we all know they never do anything other than pvp to earn isk and every one else should fall in line and play the same way) How about making the choice viable? More lp ? better isk rewards? Those may already be in place I honestly have no idea as I have not actually read or looked at the rewards in forever. I auto refuse the missions without looking at anything other than the title.

This is only based on personal observation, but the pool from wich every agent assignes missions isn't "All lv X" but rather "Lv x [Faction] [Type of Agent]" ie. lv1 Gallente security; and as such much more limited than it could be.
Second, the mechanic behind RNG tables is (once again, as far as personal experience goes) prone to getting into streaks or series. And that creates certain consequences on mission selection and loot drops.
Third, frequency of unfavorable mission being offered may or may not be influenced by a number of times particular mission is declined, either by some rudimentary level of agent recording mission acceptance rates (highly unlikely), or simply exhausting the RNG series mentioned above.
Possible workarounds are:
- finding other agents of the same NPC corp of the same level nearby (preferably even a system with multiple such agents)
- running missions for more than one corp at a time
- asking other mission runners to join them as support on their missions until decline timer resets
As for repairing damaged standings Sisters of Eve missions; especially storylines; and Epic Arc, provides almost solely standing gains to Empires, at varying rate.

This thread has been moved to Missions & Complexes.

PvP carebear whiner #241958, everyone.

OP

There are ways to influence the chances that you get an anti-faction mission. You seem to have backed into one such way. I think you are missioning for the right corporation in the wrong faction space. Try moving to a different region.

Why stop there? Incursions would still be left to make you jelly.