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Papa Django
Materials Harvesting Kombinat
#21 - 2015-01-22 13:00:09 UTC
Icarus Able wrote:
HoruSeth wrote:
May you share the fitting? Nowadays I am just daytripping to wormholes and currently training for Legion to do C3 anoms as well. But if I can use a Gila, where I am nearl ALL V would be bette at the moment, because in that case I do not need to exclude C3 connections. :)



http://puu.sh/eRMkn/93590df044.png

The anoms do around 600 dps for the majority, with sig tanking you can easily tank the anoms. Theres 1 data and 1 relic that are outside of the reach of that fit though.


Sig tanking with shields ?!? Ah ah ah ah ah :D

You are a funny one dude !

2 things :
- Since Hyperion, the remote between sleepers is active. It changes a lot of things.
- Your 600 dps is very theoric. Sleepers focus the drone, you will have to constantly in / out your flight, loosing a lot of time, doing a lot of things, it will distract you from intel.

Moreover, with passive tanking, you have no other option then waiting between 2 anos to restore your shield.

Your isk / h is probably a disaster.

Gila are nice for C2 and C3 needs T3.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#22 - 2015-01-22 13:11:07 UTC
Papa Django wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
HoruSeth wrote:
May you share the fitting? Nowadays I am just daytripping to wormholes and currently training for Legion to do C3 anoms as well. But if I can use a Gila, where I am nearl ALL V would be bette at the moment, because in that case I do not need to exclude C3 connections. :)



http://puu.sh/eRMkn/93590df044.png

The anoms do around 600 dps for the majority, with sig tanking you can easily tank the anoms. Theres 1 data and 1 relic that are outside of the reach of that fit though.


Sig tanking with shields ?!? Ah ah ah ah ah :D

You are a funny one dude !

2 things :
- Since Hyperion, the remote between sleepers is active. It changes a lot of things.
- Your 600 dps is very theoric. Sleepers focus the drone, you will have to constantly in / out your flight, loosing a lot of time, doing a lot of things, it will distract you from intel.
Your isk / h is probably a disaster.
Moreover, with passive tanking, you have no other option then waiting between 2 anos to restore your shield.


Gila are nice for C2 and C3 needs T3.



Finished sites in 15 mins. And yes you can sig tank if you keep your transversal up. If YOU cant do that while managing intel thats because you are bad not because the ship is bad. Also it only takes around 30 seconds to a minute to recharge to full shields which you dont even need to do as your peak recharge rate is around 30% anyway.

600 dps is not Theory. Its actually this thing called math. Each sleeper does a certain amount of DPS by adding them together you can find out how much damage they all do. Thats actual damage as well, not counting in sig+speed.

Yes my time numbers might be a bit off since the RR change. But the sites have also been boosted in value since then so its probably around the same. Which was 3-4 sites per hour at 30 mill just blue loot value each.

Adarnof
Anoikis Equilibrium
Honorable Third Party
#23 - 2015-01-22 13:53:50 UTC
Confirming gilas can handle C3 anoms.
Papa Django
Materials Harvesting Kombinat
#24 - 2015-01-22 13:57:16 UTC
Ok guys, your gila handle tank in solo.

How do you manage drones ?

We have tried and it is a pain, we have to constantly return them to drone bay then relaunch them because sleepers go on drones.

We will try the given fit to sit that in action.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#25 - 2015-01-22 16:34:02 UTC
Papa Django wrote:
Ok guys, your gila handle tank in solo.

How do you manage drones ?

We have tried and it is a pain, we have to constantly return them to drone bay then relaunch them because sleepers go on drones.

We will try the given fit to sit that in action.



Yeh the drones can be a bit awkward but with some smart piloting its not a huge deal. Also the Nos on there seems to make Sleepers go for drones a bit less.

But even with these problems the gila is still at least on Par with all the T3 cruisers apart from maybe the tengu.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#26 - 2015-01-23 00:18:25 UTC
You can still get 600 DPS out of a Gila with T1 hammerheads.

Those fockers are completely expendable. Load your hold with a depot and 30 T1 drones and go for it. Like, really, just throw the little bastards out there to die.

Brains, people. Brains.

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Garr Khan
Grey Area Operations
#27 - 2015-01-23 16:04:54 UTC
Use Vespas with the Gila, they'll survive much better for only a small DPS sacrifice.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#28 - 2015-01-23 16:30:12 UTC
Papa Django wrote:
Ok guys, your gila handle tank in solo.
How do you manage drones ?


If you fit two drone durability enhancer Is and got drone durability to IV-V, vespas can shieldtank c1/c2 sites. The impression of squishy drones cold be cause mixing things up. Infiltrators and HHs got crap all for shields, valks and vespas got more than 4 times the shieldtank afaik.

The same reason you can rat guristas/angels 100% afk with an ishtar and heavies, but cannot do so against serp/blood raiders - cause em/therm drones blow for pve.
PieceOfMind
E.T.C
E.T.C-01
#29 - 2015-03-03 08:29:02 UTC
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PieceOfMind
E.T.C
E.T.C-01
#30 - 2015-03-03 08:30:11 UTC
Lucifer has a goatee and he's tall and he has black hair. He's really nice and concerned about your hearts.
KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
#31 - 2015-03-03 15:49:34 UTC
Gilas work great. They wreck everything in their path. I've played with RR gilas and the cap/rep are enough to keep the aggro off the drones so you can run 700dps augmented hammerheads. It's an expensive fleet to work with though i guess not as costly as t3's with the skill point loss though.
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2015-03-03 15:56:55 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:

If you fit two drone durability enhancer Is and got drone durability to IV-V, vespas can shieldtank c1/c2 sites.


No need to do so. For C1 and C2 you can fit full Gank and 2x TP on the targets and your drones never get aggro. So you can use Augmented Hammerheads for much more raw and applied dps!

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