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Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#121 - 2015-01-23 21:37:52 UTC
Neither did we. You should look at the individual putting them into this situation in the first place.
I'd have problems with my conscience if there would be ways to access a locked hangar array that does not involve tearing it apart one way or the other. Therefore I am suffering exactly as much as Stormcrows did when they chain-killed this madman's industrials.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Angel T Hunter
Republic Military School
#122 - 2015-01-23 22:24:13 UTC
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
Angel T Hunter wrote:
Commander Kim... I highly recomend you to take that stone of a heart you have and contenplate on ethics and the word freedom.
Either that or take a handfull of "Angels purple chill pill".

PIE gave em people freedom.. Angels know they wanted that..
Yeah, I know they killed them..
But thats only to be expected from an Imperial fleet..


Since you seem to be unclear on this point:

The Sansha harboring organization Pyre shot the hangar array that housed the majority of the slaves that the Amarr coalition fleet set out to rescue.

PIE did not kill those slaves.

Despite this action on Pyres part, Amarrian forces still rescued thousands of slaves from the wreckage.

I hope, for the sake of the Pyre pilots souls, that they did not realize just how big a mistake they were making when they shot that array before attempting to rescue the victims inside.


Sansha!?!
Oh my.. Where does the imperial lies end, or start for that matter..
It is documented that the empire was there. Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot.
Statement is just as dum as the same origen theory..
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#123 - 2015-01-23 23:11:10 UTC
Angel T Hunter wrote:

Oh my.. Where does the imperial lies end, or start for that matter..
It is documented that the empire was there. Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot.
Statement is just as dum as the same origen theory..


Start seasoning your boots....
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#124 - 2015-01-23 23:34:03 UTC
Vash Typhoon wrote:

Thousands of human lives has been already lost by the actions of that sociopath, the sole purpose of that tower was to kill thousands more, I don't understand how you can easily manage to skip that part in name of "avoiding the loss of lives and resources"...

Where is the honor when all you do is looking the other side when innocents are being mass murderer?

Very hipocrite from you...

Who would say about hypocrisy, but not a gallentean! After all you gallenteans do... after all your lies, war crimes and murders you dare to speak about honor and hypocrisy?!

Moreover, you replace concept of honor with some wicked gallentean concepts at "looking at innocents being mass murdered". And now you are making whiny gallentean sort of tear running drama about such insignificant matter!

Having honor means in the first place devotion to your words, to your loyalty, to your duties and obligations. Honor stands on three pillars: courage, justice and loyalty.

Even by slaughtering innocents and becoming mass murderer you could still be honorable if you don't lie about it and accept your punishment according to the law.

Yet you gallenteans are having wicked and perverted conceptions about honor. And if I don't match your personal perversions, it doesn't make me hypocrite.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#125 - 2015-01-23 23:58:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
*removed*

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#126 - 2015-01-24 00:10:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Desiderya
*removed*

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#127 - 2015-01-24 00:53:13 UTC
*inserted*

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#128 - 2015-01-24 01:30:41 UTC  |  Edited by: ValentinaDLM
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Angel T Hunter wrote:

Oh my.. Where does the imperial lies end, or start for that matter..
It is documented that the empire was there. Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot.
Statement is just as dum as the same origen theory..


Start seasoning your boots....

Rumor has it "Trench" boots taste the best.

Also what is to happen with the right boot?
Tabor Murn
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#129 - 2015-01-24 04:49:24 UTC
Angel T Hunter wrote:

Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot.


Pro-Tip: Boiling is your friend. If you think it's ready, keep boiling. Watch out for eyelets, you don't want to break a tooth.

-This message has been brought to you by Freedom Fighters for an Ironic Tomorrow.-
Celestia Via
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#130 - 2015-01-24 12:39:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Celestia Via
Sorry to interrupt all your finger - pointing, lemme just say this:

This monsters projects and towers cannot be left standing, they are an insult against all logic.
I am glad to see people mobilizing with haste to turn them into smoldering rubble.

The loss of innocent lives is sad but expected. Don't you see what he's doing?
He is trying to sow confusion by mentioning the slaves who where killed during the attack.
Starting a blame - game.

Nauplius wrote:
Imagine the utter horror it must have been for those slaves at that moment. Knowing they were under attack. Knowing they could do nothing about it. Knowing they were going to die; a cold death under strange stars; a death without purpose; a death without meaning.

25,000 slaves. You killed them. You are slave killers. That is what you are.


As for you, monster.
Do not sully those people's memory as if you cared for them, or as if their deaths sparked any emotion in your wretched heart.You rejoiced in their death as you rejoiced in mangling their lives.

But know this: Given the choice, I would gladly kill those people myself, all of them, rather than leave them to your "care".

"We marched for days and nights, under sun, in the rain. Our minds and bodies ached for rest, but in our hearts there was nothing but the fight."
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#131 - 2015-01-24 12:59:26 UTC
Sweet Maker...

Ms. Via, did you just interrupt finger-pointing to finger point on Mr. Nauplius?...

As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.

Of course, unless his slaves will defend him with weapons in their hands, then go ahead. Kill them.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#132 - 2015-01-24 14:05:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:


As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.


Like when you decided to kill, what 50+ gallante POWs in response to some serial killer? Excuse me but who are you to talk on that point?
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#133 - 2015-01-24 15:56:02 UTC
From the fiery depths of Hell, the 25,000 euthanized slaves cry out for vengeance. And at the end of days — the day of days, the day of wrath — they shall have it. For on that terrible day, God shall condemn all the men and women of PIE, SFRIM, PY-RE, and I-RED to the lowest of Hells — the very Pit — where they shall spend all eternity in the lake of fire under the lash of their master, Molok the Deceiver.

And from the blood stained golden towers of Paradise, I shall look down upon them and cackle with glee. Amen. Amarr Victor.
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#134 - 2015-01-24 16:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: U'tah Arareb
This entire project was nothing more than a devils snare...
Our Slaves are not to be abused, they are children. There was no release for them in this vile Sinners technological hell but the release of death.

Now he mocks, calling those that freed them from torment in the only way possible murderers...

But what does one expect from one of this defilers stock?
He hates his own existence, can you not see?

Like them for Him and other heretics like him there is no release from his torment either, but death.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#135 - 2015-01-24 17:24:55 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
From the fiery depths of Hell, the 25,000 euthanized slaves cry out for vengeance. And at the end of days — the day of days, the day of wrath — they shall have it. For on that terrible day, God shall condemn all the men and women of PIE, SFRIM, PY-RE, and I-RED to the lowest of Hells — the very Pit — where they shall spend all eternity in the lake of fire under the lash of their master, Molok the Deceiver.

And from the blood stained golden towers of Paradise, I shall look down upon them and cackle with glee. Amen. Amarr Victor.


Those 25,000 slaves cry out for your blood. It is unfortunate that you are so tone-deaf you can't even tell the difference.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#136 - 2015-01-24 21:22:51 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:


As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.


Like when you decided to kill, what 50+ gallante POWs in response to some serial killer? Excuse me but who are you to talk on that point?

I didn't just "decided" to kill them, so could you stop LYING, minmatar?
They were charged with crimes against the State, was given chance to defend themselves and were found guilty by tribunal and sentenced to death. All regulations and justice procedures were followed.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#137 - 2015-01-24 21:30:47 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
From the fiery depths of Hell, the 25,000 euthanized slaves cry out for vengeance. And at the end of days — the day of days, the day of wrath — they shall have it. For on that terrible day, God shall condemn all the men and women of PIE, SFRIM, PY-RE, and I-RED to the lowest of Hells — the very Pit — where they shall spend all eternity in the lake of fire under the lash of their master, Molok the Deceiver.

And from the blood stained golden towers of Paradise, I shall look down upon them and cackle with glee. Amen. Amarr Victor.

Yea, yea, they killed your slaves, we got it (at least those of us, who still have some gray matter inside heads).
But why in the Hek you are bringing it? If they wouldn't kill them, YOU would.
Wasn't this tower for turning them into wine? Wasn't you going to kill them yourself?
How many slaves would cry out for vengeance for you killing them, or you would claim you never sacrificed one, eh?

You wanted to destroy minmatars? They did it instead of you. Enjoy. Now please shut up.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#138 - 2015-01-24 22:59:17 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:


As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.


Like when you decided to kill, what 50+ gallante POWs in response to some serial killer? Excuse me but who are you to talk on that point?

I didn't just "decided" to kill them, so could you stop LYING, minmatar?
They were charged with crimes against the State, was given chance to defend themselves and were found guilty by tribunal and sentenced to death. All regulations and justice procedures were followed.


I'm a liar for bringing up the fact you publically executed POWs, in response to a serial killer? Ok then......... Guess I'm a liar. I'd actually explain my point (which mind you had nothing to do with the POWs them self), but I don't see any actual reason to do so. It is pretty obvious, after all.

Roll
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#139 - 2015-01-24 23:03:15 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Yea, yea, they killed your slaves, we got it (at least those of us, who still have some gray matter inside heads).
But why in the Hek you are bringing it? If they wouldn't kill them, YOU would.
Wasn't this tower for turning them into wine? Wasn't you going to kill them yourself?
How many slaves would cry out for vengeance for you killing them, or you would claim you never sacrificed one, eh?

You wanted to destroy minmatars? They did it instead of you. Enjoy. Now please shut up.


It is true that I do not believe in conventional morality and that I would have made every slave in that tower into wine eventually. The point of my taunting is to mock those who destroyed my tower for their hypocrisy, given that they do supposedly believe in conventional morality. Well, some of them anyway.
Vash Typhoon
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#140 - 2015-01-25 02:56:15 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Who would say about hypocrisy, but not a gallentean! After all you gallenteans do... after all your lies, war crimes and murders you dare to speak about honor and hypocrisy?!

Moreover, you replace concept of honor with some wicked gallentean concepts at "looking at innocents being mass murdered". And now you are making whiny gallentean sort of tear running drama about such insignificant matter!

Having honor means in the first place devotion to your words, to your loyalty, to your duties and obligations. Honor stands on three pillars: courage, justice and loyalty.

Even by slaughtering innocents and becoming mass murderer you could still be honorable if you don't lie about it and accept your punishment according to the law.

Yet you gallenteans are having wicked and perverted conceptions about honor. And if I don't match your personal perversions, it doesn't make me hypocrite.


Yes you are, labeling people as "gallenteans", "minmatars", "weaks" or whatever you need to make things simple enough for your simple brain to handle. The Federation, the Ammar Empire, Minmatar Republic and your beloved State, do you really think they are diferent one from another?... They just use pawns like you to do their bids...

In the end you lack the courage to make true justice, the one beyond politics and uniforms, in those moments when something is wrong and must be stoped you did nothing... Keep yourself in your "great and honorable fights" pity little thing, do not criticize those who did what you were not brave enough to do.