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Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#41 - 2015-01-22 01:50:32 UTC
If your lazer is big enough, one press of the button does the trick for you. Rate of fire is for the Minmatar slave's ships.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#42 - 2015-01-23 21:38:49 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
Once we start talking about things like explosion velocity or optimal range, we are getting into discussing damage application vs dps bonuses. Also, missile application and turret application are very different things.

With missiles, range and transversal are irrelevant so long as the target is within maximum range. They are only effected by velocity and signature radius. With turrets, range and transversal are vitally important as both can effect the quality of hits.

In some cases, it may be that fitting an application rig will help apply more dps than any damage or RoF rig. This is especially true with large missiles. But I think we are diverging a bit from the main topic.



That isn't always true about missiles, range and direction and speed of travel all have an impact on missiles, a ship burning away from you at a high rate of velocity will reduce your effective engagement range, where as a ship burning straight into you will increase the effective engagement range, the faster the target is moving the more the range varies.

While it isn't the same effect per say it most certainly does have an impact on your engagement radius when using missiles.

In regards to your second comment. For anything other than Light Missiles(and lolrockets) it is almost always better to use Rigors instead of RoF, in the case of Heavy Missiles it is ALWAYS better to use Rigors AND Flares instead of any other rigs at all, because HM's are terrible and even with 2Rigors and 1Flare still lose up to 45% (to compare medium Long Range Turrets lose ~30% at worst possible transversals) of their applied damage (before resists) depending on the target and whether they are AB fit or not.


I failed to specify about the effect of direction on missile engagement range because the maximum range of the missile isn't actually changing. Only the target's position relative to the point in space where they were launched. If the target is flying towards the launching ship when the missiles are launched, the apparent maximum range will increase. If it is flying away, apparent range will appear to decrease.

As far as what rigs to use, that depends on what you are shooting at. But in general, yes, you want to use application rigs for larger missiles and dps rigs for smaller missiles. *Reminds self to try using rigor rigs on bombers.

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Tux WarZ
ThunderCorp..
#43 - 2015-02-19 00:50:34 UTC
but what about RoF and server tick and lag, how affect this to the dps?
Serene Repose
#44 - 2015-02-19 01:35:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Yay. Yet another engineering student with time on his hands. While we're bogged down in this minutia, then...don't you think one glaring fact in all your observations should be Damage Per "Second" is rather...inaccurate. I know DPS is gaming slang, but really, you aren't ticking this damage second by second by second...are you?

TYVM. Have a nice day!Big smile

EDIT: Oooooh, sorry. I digress. I meant to ask, "Does THIS thread have a killswitch? IF not, can we engineer one?"

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#45 - 2015-02-19 10:52:32 UTC
(ACHIEVEMENT) OP confirmed what we already know. 500 AUR
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-02-19 12:06:00 UTC
Tux WarZ wrote:
but what about RoF and server tick and lag, how affect this to the dps?

It has no effect, because damage is a calculation.
The damage is calculated by the server, regardless of it actually sending information or not.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#47 - 2015-02-19 13:47:13 UTC
ITT: People confusing the term Rate of Fire (which has units of 'volleys/time' or 'rounds per minute') with cycle time (which has units of 'time')

However, the OP's math is right - RoF bonuses are applied to the cycle time in Eve, so CCP is compounding this confusion :)

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