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Wanting to try out Wormholes - C1 to C5 - Friendly pilot!

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Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-01-19 05:22:24 UTC
Hey guys!

I am a new pilot still, under 2mil SP and want to give Wormholes a spin, I currently pilot both a Drake and a Raven, I'm a Caldari only pilot for those of you who haven't seen my prior posts, but I am wondering if their are any Corps out there that wouldn't mind having me around to try stuff out, preferably a mining Corp so I don't interfere and steal kills from you or a Corp who'd be willing to let me join some fleets with them! I'm in the Australian TZ just btw. I'd be happy to pay a fee for being able to roam in your space, or bring some supplies you might need on my way in? But yeah, please let me know via EVEmail or leave a post and ill get back to you!

Thanks!
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#2 - 2015-01-19 11:08:33 UTC
also dont forget to have two characters why? main character and alt character in case your main dies , you can use alt to get him back into hole

there was so many tears from people who go with one guy into hole, put big pos up and they die soon/sooner pos runs out of fuel and goodies are revealed :D so be careful and fly safe.

i recommend you to join one of corps that belong to "exiled ones" alliance that is wh related matter, hopefully you will find good place to start with.
Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#3 - 2015-01-19 15:24:44 UTC
Don't do anything with the Raven. You don't have enough SP to get good support skills out of it. So it's just a giant target with big sig radius. Stick to the drake or caracal for c1-c2 wh space. Graduate into c3.

With players like yourself, I would strongly suggest eve uni wh campus.
Catalytic morphisis
Ruthless Regiment
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#4 - 2015-01-19 16:45:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Catalytic morphisis
Definitely jumped into even a Drake a little too quickly, I'd suggest you get your skills up to atleast be decent at piloting a caracal before even thinking about going raven, hit up C1's in the caracal to start till you get your support skills high enough to fly a drake, Then move to that and go C2, Then keep training the support skills to allow you to effectively fly a raven before going into C3, You could take drake to C3 but expect to be grinding very slowly through.

Eve Uni is probably your best place to look

Actual Link free and scout free solo PvP'er

Jez Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-01-19 17:10:10 UTC
1. dont pay fees to join a corp - ever (these are always scams).
2. u dont steal kills, if ur in fleet pvp'ing ur doing Bob's work (he will be pleased)
3. if you absolutely have to mine (Bob frowns). dont mine roids, only gas because its more valuable... and u can expect to be ganked a few times whilst u learn the ropes. only mine roids if u intend on building, indy isnt a primary wspace activity.
4. look for corps with peeps that are active in your TZ, that will be very important for you to learn how to wspace.

alternatives to eve uni here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=391414&find=unread
Witmer Jolith
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-01-19 21:30:34 UTC
First, correct me if I am wrong, but your original post seems to indicate that you are seeking the ability to "sleep on someone's couch". Take advantage of the wormhole and all of the content available there. This is bad.

Without being in a corporation, you will not have access to warp to and "safe up" in the POS when hostiles are on scan. You cannot store your ship or swap between the Raven and the Drak3. And, you cannot refit modules as necessary on your ships.

There are corporations who welcome newer pilots to the wormhole life and also look to assist them with learning this aspect and other aspects in the game.

Do not mine ore. Always gas. Relic > > Combat > Data > Gas (unless you are in a C5 or C6).

You will lose your ship. Just chalk it up. In fact, go buy 2-3 replacements already. Lack of local and the need to directional scan semi-permanently will only partially save you. With cloaked ships and the buff to combat recons you will constantly be faced with ship losses.

So, you want to minimize your ISK loss in comparison to the loot benefit in running all these sites.

Where are you planning to store all your fat loot? Being in a corporation will give you access to a Personal Hangar Array, and any corporation worthy of joining should have a loot buy process where you do not even need to export the loot.

Just some thoughts for you..
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-01-19 23:35:49 UTC
Hey guys, thanks for the replies! I will answer them in order from first to last.

@Amak Boma - Unfortunately I do not want to use an ALT (I am playing this game both as a player and role-player, so yeah, and yes, i know this will limit a lot of what i can do, but i am not changing that just so i can get easy street, i like a challenge, and if that means losing DPS for a Probe Launcher, then so be it).

And I wouldn't be taking in a POS unless my Corp was to follow me in so we could all be able to do this, this is for me to learn so i can pass that onto my Corporation and get us into Wormhole space and learning more aspects about this game.

And thank you, i will look at that option, though i don't want to leave my Corporation to do it, hence why i am asking to rent or find a Corp to work alongside with.

@Ghenghis Kralj - Why does everyone say that about the Raven? What is a good amount of SP for the Raven? Cause i have been solo'ing Lvl 4 Missions with both my Drake and Raven, and i never have to warp out, or MJD away, and i hate the Carcal, looks ugly as sin, haha! but yeah, my hole strategy is to tank and hammer away, very Caldari, very stubborn.

I have lost a Carcal and a Raven before, on my first Level 4 i think it was, wasn't aware of how to control the flow of battle or how to tank properly. my Missiles and Shields are good, i have focused on PvE and some PvP skills, but all into Missiles and Shields as my 2 priorities.

@Catalytic morphisis - Same as above man, I am running both a Drake and Raven for Level 4's depending on the mission, and i haven't lost one since i started using my shields better, same with my Raven, but ever one says i can't fly it proporly, I'm the least skilled person in my Corporation but i am the only one that can solo all the Level 4's i have, and I'm even an idiot and agro the whole room, BS's first, then have fun with everything else, and it works well for me, also tested out a C3 last night with my Corp mate and he used a Amarr BC, and i used a Drake, and we did fine, did a site and then left (We found a Wormhole that was owned by some Russian Corp, but we were only in their for 20 minutes and jumped out, spammed that D-scan though, haha!

@Jez Amatin - Not paying fee's to join a Corp, sorry if that was lost in the OP, i am asking to rent a Wormhole from a Corp so i can fly around their Wormhole without being targeted by them, pay them in Melted Nanoribbons or ISK, and by steal kill i meant NPC's haha! I would love to fly in a PvP fleet though, and I don't have any skills in Mining bar the Level 2 you start with, haha! and yeah, that is my problem, even my Corp mate who does Wormholes, he is on at a different time to the rest of the Corp, i have to stay up late to run with him, which i do, but i only get 1 or 2 missions or activities in at a time.

@Witmer Jolith - And yeah, that is the gist of it i guess, i would be paying them for that though, in Melted Nanoribbons or ISK, so it would be worth the owning Corporations/players time.

And i won't need that, i would be operating under the knowledge of loosing the ship, and my loot, i would bring in enough to learn the ropes with, and have some fun, i don't really care to much about loosing a Raven (full fit for Wormhole space that i have made is just shy of 250mil and the Drake is 120mil), so that isn't a cause of concern, plus if hostiles come in i can give them a run around and give the owning Corporation some time to get ready, even if it is only a minute, that is a minute they didn't have before.

And these are the Corporations i am looking for, those i don't want to leave my own Corporation to do so, hence why asking to rent.

And i am used to Null Sec and Low Sec, so spamming that button is second nature now, i even do it in High Sec just in case.. Been a fad of going around killing my MTU's of late..

And i would only be around long enough to learn the ropes, and shove my Raven or Drake full, and that would be it, it isn't a chance to make ISK for me, i am more looking for a group of people to teach me the ropes, hell, they can take all the loot if they want, i just want to learn a bit so i can help my Corp get Wormhole ready.

Thanks everyone for you replies, it is good to see it from different perspectives and get more information and the like, so thank you!
umnikar
Fishbone Industries
#8 - 2015-01-20 12:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: umnikar
Usualy they ask you to have scan skills at least. Then it's your job to scan endless chains during your evening and ping pvp guys if you spot a target. Don't think this is a good place for friendly people... Cool

You are looking for a hs corp that is also running a low class wormhole besides. I can link you a pretty good one with very high AU membership.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#9 - 2015-01-20 13:21:08 UTC
If you dont want to leave your corp then tough it up grab some guys and move in and learn as you go.

What you are asking for just aint gonna happen with decent pilots.
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-01-20 23:28:49 UTC
Thanks for the replies!

@umnikar - Thanks for the tip, i got your message, i will check the most and see if i can't get something going with them, thank you!

@Icarus Able - It happened last night in a C3 we found, got permission of the owning Corp, they even talk to us while we were running sites, it was great! Got some tips of another player who saw me as i left the Wormhole and gave me some advice, a few tips for when i move off the Raven, and yeah, me and my Corp mate decided it is fun and worth the risk of finding an un-friendly hole, so we are going to keep it up, find and make friends with some more groups if possible, will be great! It was really fun, one guy actually sent me a EVEmail with links to YouTube video's to help me with my scanning and a few good Wormholes to look for, so yeah, there are some decent pilots out in Wormhole space who just want to do their own thing and help out other, make some friends while doing it, anyways, i enjoyed it, going to try find some Wormholes with special effects next and see how they work, so pumped!
Kynric
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#11 - 2015-01-21 00:02:36 UTC
Have you considered living wherever your corp is and just scanning for and diving into wormholes from there? You will find many unoccupied or at least unoccupied at your time of day holes that you can just borrow the use of. It reduces the cost of the many lessons you will learn to just the ship you happen to be flying.
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-01-21 00:05:08 UTC
Kynric wrote:
Have you considered living wherever your corp is and just scanning for and diving into wormholes from there? You will find many unoccupied or at least unoccupied at your time of day holes that you can just borrow the use of. It reduces the cost of the many lessons you will learn to just the ship you happen to be flying.


That is basically what we did, had to go a few jumps off to a family dead system though, most were C1's till we got their, thanks for your reply! I mainly wanted to work along side a corp so they could teach me the ropes, as there is only so much theory that can help, practical is what matters in the end, that was all.
Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-01-21 12:33:36 UTC
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:

@Ghenghis Kralj - Why does everyone say that about the Raven?

'Cause they are bitter vets who rely waaaay too much on their bazillions of SP. Raven with 2mio SP works just fine. It's a very forgiving ship in that regard.
However for low class w-space u might want to use the Drake.
zar dada
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#14 - 2015-01-21 15:21:49 UTC
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
Hey guys!

I am a new pilot still, under 2mil SP and want to give Wormholes a spin, I currently pilot both a Drake and a Raven, I'm a Caldari only pilot for those of you who haven't seen my prior posts, but I am wondering if their are any Corps out there that wouldn't mind having me around to try stuff out, preferably a mining Corp so I don't interfere and steal kills from you or a Corp who'd be willing to let me join some fleets with them! I'm in the Australian TZ just btw. I'd be happy to pay a fee for being able to roam in your space, or bring some supplies you might need on my way in? But yeah, please let me know via EVEmail or leave a post and ill get back to you!

Thanks!


There are some wh corps recruiting in this thread http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=66

AU tz is always welcome.
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-01-21 22:33:10 UTC
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'Cause they are bitter vets who rely waaaay too much on their bazillions of SP. Raven with 2mio SP works just fine. It's a very forgiving ship in that regard.
However for low class w-space u might want to use the Drake.


You see, that i can understand and agree with, i have downgraded to the Drake for now until i know a bit more, as recommended by you and a few others, a WH player helped me with a fit last night in-game.

And yeah, everyone always says that new players shouldn't be in BS, and it is bull, the Raven i run works great, its magic, and if its that argument about not flying what you can't afford to loose, well i can afford a second one if i do loose her, because it generated the money, plus it helped me and my Corp mate afford our POS, so that is a plus..

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There are some wh corps recruiting in this thread http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=66

AU tz is always welcome.


Thanks for that man! I will look it up!
Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#16 - 2015-01-21 22:55:59 UTC
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
@Amak Boma - Unfortunately I do not want to use an ALT (I am playing this game both as a player and role-player, so yeah, and yes, i know this will limit a lot of what i can do, but i am not changing that just so i can get easy street, i like a challenge, and if that means losing DPS for a Probe Launcher, then so be it).

Using alts is in no way a path to "easy street".

Using a 2nd character for emergency prober is just common sense, it's not lazy. As for dual-boxing well it takes a lot of practice and doesn't guarantee you any advantage, in fact you stand to lose twice as much if you welp. Plus the cost of a second sub. I find dual boxing a ton of fun and a challenge of it's own to perfect.

As for being a roleplayer I'm not sure what that has to do with anything regarding your w-space choices. I roleplay over a dozen characters heavily and they all live in wormholes too, spread between two corps.
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-01-21 23:05:51 UTC
Shelby Dusette wrote:
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
@Amak Boma - Unfortunately I do not want to use an ALT (I am playing this game both as a player and role-player, so yeah, and yes, i know this will limit a lot of what i can do, but i am not changing that just so i can get easy street, i like a challenge, and if that means losing DPS for a Probe Launcher, then so be it).

Using alts is in no way a path to "easy street".

Using a 2nd character for emergency prober is just common sense, it's not lazy. As for dual-boxing well it takes a lot of practice and doesn't guarantee you any advantage, in fact you stand to lose twice as much if you welp. Plus the cost of a second sub. I find dual boxing a ton of fun and a challenge of it's own to perfect.

As for being a roleplayer I'm not sure what that has to do with anything regarding your w-space choices. I roleplay over a dozen characters heavily and they all live in wormholes too, spread between two corps.


Well the fact that between a full time job, utilities, food, rent, fuel, money is a bit hard to spare the extra cash, even if it only is a small amount, i would prefer to eat nice stuff and not all home brand (some home brand stuff is great though!), on top of that, i run this game of my MacBook Pro, so that means 1 screen, and it gets hot enough with all my special cooling stuff with one essence of the game running.

And i prefer to focus on one character, one story, not 2 or more, plus, i like the idea of one guy having to learn and do everything, if i want a fleet to help me ill get my Corporation in to run a fleet with me, but in general i don't want an ALT, i just want my main, and i want to focus on him and his story and his life. Plus it is a bit cooler when you can be a swiss army knife and be able to do everything without having to have dedicated ALT's for different tasks, you might think otherwise and that is fine, but this is how i think which is also fine. As you said, it isn't an advantage, but more of a challenge, i find it the other way, that is all, but yeah, no ALT's for me, even if i did have the money.
Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#18 - 2015-01-21 23:21:55 UTC
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
Well the fact that between a full time job, utilities, food, rent, fuel, money is a bit hard to spare the extra cash, even if it only is a small amount, i would prefer to eat nice stuff and not all home brand (some home brand stuff is great though!), on top of that, i run this game of my MacBook Pro, so that means 1 screen, and it gets hot enough with all my special cooling stuff with one essence of the game running.

Yeah I understand that. If you "can't" run an alt then sure, but I noticed you said you "won't", so thought I'd try to give a different perspective for you.

But just think, your character gets podded out of somewhere and you could stand to lose a lot by not being able to probe yourself back in. I guess like much of eve it's about balancing the pros n' cons. One toon means it also takes longer to do certain things, so if RL time is also precious....

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And i prefer to focus on one character, one story, not 2 or more, plus, i like the idea of one guy having to learn and do everything, if i want a fleet to help me ill get my Corporation in to run a fleet with me, but in general i don't want an ALT, i just want my main, and i want to focus on him and his story and his life. Plus it is a bit cooler when you can be a swiss army knife and be able to do everything without having to have dedicated ALT's for different tasks, you might think otherwise and that is fine, but this is how i think which is also fine. As you said, it isn't an advantage, but more of a challenge, i find it the other way, that is all, but yeah, no ALT's for me, even if i did have the money.

Same. Smile

I have a main character who I do most of my RP on, who keeps a blog and who's IC life I really enjoy building over time. The other characters are somewhat like sidekicks or supporting actors. Can still have numerous characters while still focusing on the story of one. Smile

Anyway, don't mean to sound negative. Just lending another perspective. Good luck!
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-01-21 23:26:27 UTC
Shelby Dusette wrote:
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
Well the fact that between a full time job, utilities, food, rent, fuel, money is a bit hard to spare the extra cash, even if it only is a small amount, i would prefer to eat nice stuff and not all home brand (some home brand stuff is great though!), on top of that, i run this game of my MacBook Pro, so that means 1 screen, and it gets hot enough with all my special cooling stuff with one essence of the game running.

Yeah I understand that. If you "can't" run an alt then sure, but I noticed you said you "won't", so thought I'd try to give a different perspective for you.

But just think, your character gets podded out of somewhere and you could stand to lose a lot by not being able to probe yourself back in. I guess like much of eve it's about balancing the pros n' cons. One toon means it also takes longer to do certain things, so if RL time is also precious....

Quote:
And i prefer to focus on one character, one story, not 2 or more, plus, i like the idea of one guy having to learn and do everything, if i want a fleet to help me ill get my Corporation in to run a fleet with me, but in general i don't want an ALT, i just want my main, and i want to focus on him and his story and his life. Plus it is a bit cooler when you can be a swiss army knife and be able to do everything without having to have dedicated ALT's for different tasks, you might think otherwise and that is fine, but this is how i think which is also fine. As you said, it isn't an advantage, but more of a challenge, i find it the other way, that is all, but yeah, no ALT's for me, even if i did have the money.

Same. Smile

I have a main character who I do most of my RP on, who keeps a blog and who's IC life I really enjoy building over time. The other characters are somewhat like sidekicks or supporting actors. Can still have numerous characters while still focusing on the story of one. Smile

Anyway, don't mean to sound negative. Just lending another perspective. Good luck!


I didnt mean to offend, sorry if it seemed that way, and to be honest, Alexi Drakenovic does not use implants, so me loosing my pods isn't that bad.. I don't use jump clones though either so that is a hit.. And it is more of a time and money restraint really, plus, i like the idea of being handicapped, its kinda like RL, you got to do it yourself most of the time, and i can't do that unfortunately, i am not all that gifted when it comes to a working head.. One character is enough at this point, maybe in the future i might, but for now it is a no, thanks though! And thank you for you perspective! I am kinda use to trolls and the like so sorry if i seemed harsh, honestly didnt meant to be :)

Fly safe, or fly hard!
Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#20 - 2015-01-21 23:34:12 UTC
No it's cool. You didn't offend at all. Big smile

I'm used to being a troll (it's wormholes yo!), so didn't want to leave you with the impression I was posting to be one.... this time.

*hugs it out* Oops

Get in there and just have fun. You'll learn over time what works and what doesn't for you. Just keep an open mind to change your playstyle to suit. Also, alt+tab sucks but it's not so bad when just dual boxing. I do it all the time at work, but use multiple monitors when I'm at home.

If you want a little in-character wormhole inspiration I also recommend my big sista's blog (shameless plug). New episode coming soon in fact, sex, murder, Bananas, cap kills. It's got it all yo.
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