Out of Pod Experience

Admittingly, it is a bit silly but I think it sends a rather clear message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625_eECEw4A

Interesting. I think that if Dust had been on pc from the get go the link would of worked better. Or if it had been written in CARBON and or incarnia had been UE3.

But oh well, should of been is not what is. CCP could recover and make legion, eve, and valk, awesome, but we will see. That game does look interesting though.

well we did tell them (ccp) that it was doomed to fail if it was only playable on the console ... hopefully they have learned the lesson (which I think they have with valkarye )

exactly, instead of trying to start an entirely new and unsupported community from scratch, DUST should have budded out of the EVE community as an offshoot/expansion of the playerbase and grown its own legs from there, which would have meant meaningful, seamless, and useful/wanted integration between both with equal representation as it develops.

how they did it was to try and build a community from scratch with a concept that wasnt sure where it wanted to go, because it wanted to be integrated, but it didnt want to make EVE players feel like it was 100% necessary, but it wanted to matter, but not get in the way, it was doomed to fail from a deveopmnt/community standpoint, because they started the DUST community off as a small detached group of "2nd rate citizens" who as far as an EVE player is concerned didnt matter to the day-2-day operations.

integration should be from the start, or not at all. integrating 2 independent is never better than designing the new system to work with the old one from the concept.

This has been my main gripe with DUST since it´s inception.

I know CCP wanted to extend its "share" into consoles, but barring PC players from DUST was one of their worst oversights imho.

CCP tried to diversify, gambled and has from my side of the fence, lost the two bets it had made (Incarna/WoD and DUST) .

EVE and its world/IP are just too niche to simply propagate easily into other HIGHLY competitive sectors of the gaming market, and really? Consoles? Greed just got the best of them, and they paid dearly for it.

CCP/EVE isnt Apple, they are not going to have an "apple" moment either nor have a billionaire paying them to stay afloat after their mistakes.

They will not go mainstream all of a sudden and to be honest, the ONLY platform they actually have to try to appeal to a wider audience is just EVE, which is a pretty dangerous game they playing, so they have to go slowly, as the system purges itself out of the "old guard" and honestly they have been at it quite well, so a /hatoff to them on that aspect.

But they really really need to bring DUST into the PC, but I dream, I think I remember them tying themselves up into the most awful of self-imposed knots with the licensing agreements they signed with SOE.

Anyway, yeah, wonder if they will actually do it right with their next iterations of the IP.

But I still wish they released DUST for PC even if it´s just a dream

I was an early adopter of DUST514 based on my EVE experience, I even bought a PS3 to play it on. I think I was an example of the zeal a lot of EVE players had for what DUST514 could have been.

Angels Fall First seems to come a lot closer to meeting those potentials than DUST514 ever has. I am very saddened to have to say that but in my opinion the trailer explaining the AFF game hit all the right points.

CCP made some serious misjudgments in their roll out of DUST514, they never made a meaningful connection between capsuleers and mercs, they did not come close to making an economy that was comparable, the pay off for participation was like mission running, something to do but you'll never pay for monthly plex with it. Most importantly the battles never scaled up to a level that EVE players could be comfortable with. CCP for a company that loves to brag about it's grand battles you locked DUST514 into small ball from day one.

Faction warfare should have been massive campaigns that took days to complete and players/ squads could chip away at them one objective at a time with opposing players in different time zones working to counteract their every gain. Instead you limited the points a player could earn everyday, nerfed sniper weapons and dropships, almost turned it into SPACE world of tanks by nerfing rocket launchers, and finally you never allowed isk/aurum exchange between DUST514 & EVE players.

CCP has a fear of upsetting it's base of hardcore longtime and sometime bitter veterans, this fear hamstrings them from doing things that could make the gameplay interesting. The war barge is the perfect example, early on while waiting for matches you could wander around talk to other players and build a squad with whomever was on your side. As the game exists now you spend a lot of time in your quarters alone and briefly flash thru the war barge with hardly enough time to invite member to fill out your squad.

CCP hire these guys! Buy out Angels Fall First and incorporate it into Legion/ Valkerie.

Then listen to your DUST514 player base without fear of the EVE player base. EVE guys just do not want you wasting resources that could help develop their playing experience.

Let us fight in stations, on the ground, in the air, and in ships, even if you have to limit it to NPC stations and ships to not upset the EVE vets that a merc will board his ship or POS or station and blow it up.

But that would be so cool to do!

You still have a chance to save the DUST514 players and keep them interested in the EVE universe but with Destiny, and who knows how soon Angels Fall First being released you might lose them to other games forever.