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Is corp hoping to surprise a war target allowed?

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Sugar Smacks
Khanid Royal Navy
Khanid.
#41 - 2015-01-20 23:17:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Sugar Smacks
This whole post reads of lazy game mechanics that should of been fixed a long time ago.

Grey area? It reads of lazy programming.
Much like the whole war dec and war dec dodging system.

If you have to make a excuse for the game you have a problem.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#42 - 2015-01-20 23:25:20 UTC
This is simply a case of 'What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.'

War decs do need work though.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Sugar Smacks
Khanid Royal Navy
Khanid.
#43 - 2015-01-20 23:32:39 UTC
No any "mechanic" that is perfectly legal to perform in game but you need a GM to follow up on in broken.

This goes way beyond griefing newbies this is just broken game mechanics for everyone.

Accepting broken as the norm is pretty dumb, but hey lets have GM's responding to pointless calls im sure we can afford it right?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#44 - 2015-01-20 23:39:44 UTC
Sugar Smacks wrote:
No any "mechanic" that is perfectly legal to perform in game but you need a GM to follow up on in broken.

This goes way beyond griefing newbies this is just broken game mechanics for everyone.

Accepting broken as the norm is pretty dumb, but hey lets have GM's responding to pointless calls im sure we can afford it right?
I agree war decs are broken.

But I do like the idea that some are using the avoidance technique, to actually kill players instead. If it's good for the goose......

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#45 - 2015-01-22 01:48:12 UTC
Adding a P may have worked wonders for this thread. PROOFREADING starts with one of those.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#46 - 2015-01-22 04:05:28 UTC
Agree the wardec dodging corp folding- insta reopening for a couple mill is broken and should be deemed and explotation of gane m3chanics.

To close a corp at war you should have to pay the surrender fee, defaulted to 50mill or whatever cost of war ended up being.
Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#47 - 2015-01-22 04:08:21 UTC
Sugar Smacks wrote:
This whole post reads of lazy game mechanics that should of been fixed a long time ago.

Grey area? It reads of lazy programming.
Much like the whole war dec and war dec dodging system.

If you have to make a excuse for the game you have a problem.


Im wars will be the next to go in their save the newbros we need million subs mentality thats coming back to them again.

I am a comptur programmer and this it doesnt take YEARS to fix these things.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#48 - 2015-01-22 05:25:19 UTC
Lord Parallax wrote:
So I am sitting in space cloaked up scouting local, have a few reds in system but no war targets.
Then my alliance chat starts flashing I take a look and it is one of our miners linking his retriever and his pod loss.

I look at who the aggressor is and it is a member of the corp we are at war with, I look back and local and it still says the pilot is a member of their alt corp not a member of the War corp.

I look at his bio and it updates to say that the pilot had switched corps not more than a few minutes ago.. but he hasn't registered as a war target at all.

Is this legal?


Having been reported myself and having reported others previously, I'll say this:

You are only allowed to hop into a war corp and kill a target if you jump through a star gate (so your local updates with your new standings) and at least 5 minutes pass before you agress your target.

If your dreaming of sitting next to a wt and then hopping into a war corp moments before you agro him.... lets just say your gonna have a bad time with the petitions that follow suit.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
#49 - 2015-01-22 05:29:25 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:


and at least 5 minutes pass before you agress your target.


wut bout 4:59? no go? this seems made up cuz it is.

citation needed.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#50 - 2015-01-22 05:40:40 UTC
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:


and at least 5 minutes pass before you agress your target.


wut bout 4:59? no go? this seems made up cuz it is.

citation needed.


Regarding not being allowed to do so in the same system while in space:

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1555743&page=1#6

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Exploit_notifications


Since I'm not allowed to post GM correspondence on the forums (Eve forum rules, go cite it yourself), I"ll merely relay that the GM's I've had this chat with over the last few year(s) indicated that I needed to "make a few jumps or wait at least 5 minutes" before I do anything.

If you're that desperate to get a citation though, hop into a corp, gank, petition yourself and see what happens.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#51 - 2015-01-22 05:58:09 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:


and at least 5 minutes pass before you agress your target.


wut bout 4:59? no go? this seems made up cuz it is.

citation needed.


Regarding not being allowed to do so in the same system while in space:

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1555743&page=1#6

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Exploit_notifications


Since I'm not allowed to post GM correspondence on the forums (Eve forum rules, go cite it yourself), I"ll merely relay that the GM's I've had this chat with over the last few year(s) indicated that I needed to "make a few jumps or wait at least 5 minutes" before I do anything.

If you're that desperate to get a citation though, hop into a corp, gank, petition yourself and see what happens.


"Note that this only applies when changing corporations while on grid with the war target, this exploit cannot be performed if pilots switch corps while docked."

Soo not on grid and session change like i first stated forever ago.


*also fun awox funfact. I have had apps invited, went to belt, locked soon-to-be-corpmate in a barge, accepted app to corp and shot within .6 seconda of being in his corp... all legally and still is legal today.
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