EVE New Citizens Q&A

Are there any corps don't treat applicants like Stasi?

The corp system looks seriously poisoned ...

Roles, maybe different. The posts above talk about API keys of every line member and reading all mails ... and spies ... how many reveal themselves via API keys?

A. Of course. Prevention is better then curing...So you want to stop the "bad guy" from entering in teh first place.

B. Ooh, you would be amazed how many people are stupid enough to leave such a paper trail that it just screams: LOOK, I'M A SPY/THIEF/AWOXER.

And funny thing, when you confront them about it, they get all defensive.

Well of course they get defensive. If they admit to being a spy, awoxer, or thief, would you let them in the corp, for being brave and telling the truth?

To me it would be interesting to know what you do with squeaky clean accounts, and with the applicants who are upfront about having been in whatever enemy alliance and just say they didn't like it there.

In the past (haven't recruited in a while), honesty would have gotten you a long long way.

A new character that is obviously an alt of a more seasoned player, that hid that from me during recruitment (while, you could easily tell he is a vet)...instant No-Go.

A new character that is upfront about being a new character of a veteran and that he has flown with "x" and "y" in the past or did profession "A" or "B"...would most likely be accepted unless something really really fishy comes up. Benefit of the doubt aswel as honesty are there for a reason.



With me, it wasn't the API most of the time that told me to recruit or not recruit a person.

It was the actual conversation (both chat and on TS) that would do the trick. An API is just factual numbers, a good convo can tell you a whole lot more about someone.

Another thing we used to do a lot with "more shady" recruits.

Have 2 recruiters do an interview with said person on seperate occasions.
And have both recruiters ask similar type of questions...and then compare the answers the recruitee gave.

It's easy to lie about a bunch of things once, it's very hard to keep all those lies straight in a next chat.

For many corps that operate in null just being in corp and having their name attached to you opens them up for huge liability if you start shooting at blues. So they are taking a huge risk by bringing you onboard. That being said corps have to grow so they need to recruit.

Also it is not just about how many spys / AWOXers you catch but how many you prevent from even applying. It prevents someone from just starting an alt and joining a corp. Now if they want to be a spy or cause trouble they have to start a fresh and clean paid account for each time that they want to do this. While it doesn't make it impossible for people to get spy's / AXOXers in a corp it certainly makes it more difficult.

Personally i would never give out a full API key, but i know that some organizations will not accept you unless you are willing to provide it. In those cases.. Well if you really like the corp/alliance your joining thats a choice you have to make your self.

Providing a key without an expiry date.

I guess i can see reasons for it.
If the corp in question wants you to train specific skills this would be an easy way for them to make sure you stick to the agreed skill plan, and of course it can make it easier for the FC to know what members can fly what ships.

It can also be helpful if you suspect that a person has been.. not completely honest with you during the interview (which honestly should have been reason enough to reject the recruit in the first place in my opinion) and the API key can help ensure that the recruit keeps training the character he/she was joining with and not just joined, left the character in question more or less inactive training one of their alts instead for unknown reasons.

I cant see any way they can really use the API key to scam you or similar, but i would ask them why they want one that never expires and unless the answer you get "makes sense" i would turn around and find another corp.

Sadly while API keys is a very useful tool while recruiting (i use it my self) a lot of recruiters put way to much faith in it and stop caring about anything but the API key, and in some cases this can lead a corp to come with... excessive demands when it comes to this one part skipping all other research.