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Circadians now shooting back if attacked

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Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#61 - 2015-01-27 17:41:41 UTC
Eojek wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Appears that Empress Jamyl Sarum has issued what feels like a warning.

Considering some rather dubious "facts" about her and the implication of things she might have advanced knowledge of, I would take this seriously.


There's also a rumor that the sleepers are no longer waiting to be attacked.

While there is not much fanfare about all of this, this situation may be the most significant in our lifetimes.


So don't shoot them and make every effort to communicate and open diplomatic channels.


I say instead, we arm our bears, is that bear our arms? All pilots should be equipped with full combat fit, including miners and haulers. There's no diplomacy available with drones, and I've seen these things do some nasty stuff in anoikis.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Eojek
Starlight Moly
#62 - 2015-01-27 18:10:46 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
There's no diplomacy available with drones, and I've seen these things do some nasty stuff in anoikis.


I would jokingly suggest isolating one with EWF and sending out a crew EVA to paint signed graphitii messages. Maybe coat the entire sleeper drone in yellow adhesive paper with hand-written messages. It would certainly get someone's attention.
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#63 - 2015-01-27 18:54:18 UTC
They have already taken a place in our space, it may not be long before they interact with our communications... I shall be watching this communications board carefully.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#64 - 2015-01-27 23:20:39 UTC
Well if there is any way to open up communications with these sleeper drones I'm all for it.


But I'm open to how that can be done and last I recall, they are not having any open channels.


Smack-talking them "might" have helped but the timing of the arrival might have made it just seem so.

Therefore I would wonder if there have been any real attempts to "talk" to them?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Luther Renvolint
Order of Interests
#65 - 2015-01-29 20:29:54 UTC
I have been spending some time observing the seekers recently and trying to find some way to establish mutual communication.

I would be grateful of any information sharing opportunies so that our understanding of these drones and the cloaked structures can improve far quicker.

And please, try to keep them alive, attacking them is clearly causing them to become aggressive! And I for one would like to continue observing and learning from them instead of destroying them! Or eventually being destroyed by them ...

Traded knowledge and tech must be better than backwards engineered scrap ... no?

The time has come to cast aside our differences such that we, humanity's wayward brothers and sisters, may once again return home. - Vuld Haupt, The Paths of Our Ancestors

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#66 - 2015-01-30 05:55:04 UTC
Luther Renvolint wrote:
I have been spending some time observing the seekers recently and trying to find some way to establish mutual communication.

I would be grateful of any information sharing opportunies so that our understanding of these drones and the cloaked structures can improve far quicker.

And please, try to keep them alive, attacking them is clearly causing them to become aggressive! And I for one would like to continue observing and learning from them instead of destroying them! Or eventually being destroyed by them ...

Traded knowledge and tech must be better than backwards engineered scrap ... no?




I have followed them around and attempted to communicate with them in binary streams.

Possibly they have more complex channels to communicate over. I was thinking of getting some scientists, transmitters, decryptors of various types (that which I can swipe from the hands of industrialists of course) and trying again but so far they don't even seem like they will talk.

If there was some way to imitate them perhaps, make them think our ships are other sleeper drones, that might get us into the communications channels.

We know that low mass ships, that that... ah what did they call - the sailboats do not get attacked in worm holes. So they can be spoofed to some extent.

Ah well... good old scientific method.



Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#67 - 2015-01-30 18:22:07 UTC
Rather chilling words from the Empress


While she's not my ruler, there's an otherworldly quality to her to which I can be more objective and I think there's more to this Empress than meets the eye. She has that "infomorphic feel".

So for that I take what she says a little more seriously.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Captain Davison
Malachi Keep Detachments
#68 - 2015-01-31 00:36:43 UTC
Would now be a good time to mention spotting on occasion an unidentified battleship-class hull on the extreme edge of my sensors out at some of the cometary belts beyond normal capsuleer-ranges?
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2015-01-31 01:05:42 UTC
Captain Davison wrote:
Would now be a good time to mention spotting on occasion an unidentified battleship-class hull on the extreme edge of my sensors out at some of the cometary belts beyond normal capsuleer-ranges?


Heard stories in bars of some deadly black triangle with magically floating guns that dealt death like a demon and was harder to shoot than an asteroid. Listening to those drunks prattle on with their ghost stories, I was sure the next thing they would say was that I'd better be a good little boy or the Spook Ship would get me in the middle of the night. I'm sure you're sensors are just malfunctioning. Run a diagnostic on systems.

And no, if you put your teeth under a pillow it doesn't turn into money over night. Trust me, I keep trying.
Captain Davison
Malachi Keep Detachments
#70 - 2015-01-31 02:26:45 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Captain Davison wrote:
Would now be a good time to mention spotting on occasion an unidentified battleship-class hull on the extreme edge of my sensors out at some of the cometary belts beyond normal capsuleer-ranges?


Heard stories in bars of some deadly black triangle with magically floating guns that dealt death like a demon and was harder to shoot than an asteroid. Listening to those drunks prattle on with their ghost stories, I was sure the next thing they would say was that I'd better be a good little boy or the Spook Ship would get me in the middle of the night. I'm sure you're sensors are just malfunctioning. Run a diagnostic on systems.

And no, if you put your teeth under a pillow it doesn't turn into money over night. Trust me, I keep trying.


I did. Not exactly like my ship is a junker, it's a nice tech 2 baby. You know, with the leather seats and the metallic flake paint job. Hells, maybe I am seeing things. But we all thought that sleepers wouldn't come to K-Space in force. We all thought that these drones weren't armed. Considering they're escalating, I wouldn't put ghost stories beyond the realm of possibility. After all, even they need a good and proper battleship to wreck our day. I don't know if it's sleeper, jovian, or ORE's secret lovechild with that fool Chribba, but I do know I don't want to find out if they're hostile or not by having 15 of the buggers drop out on me while I'm harpooning an asteroid.
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#71 - 2015-01-31 02:59:15 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Rather chilling words from the Empress


While she's not my ruler, there's an otherworldly quality to her to which I can be more objective and I think there's more to this Empress than meets the eye. She has that "infomorphic feel".

So for that I take what she says a little more seriously.


Considering the Empresses government was one of the ones that called for sleeper salvage in the recent rush, and indeed, the ones who got the most and celebrated it, I would dare to say she might be a bit of a hypocrite in this instance.
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#72 - 2015-01-31 04:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: U'tah Arareb
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Rather chilling words from the Empress


While she's not my ruler, there's an otherworldly quality to her to which I can be more objective and I think there's more to this Empress than meets the eye. She has that "infomorphic feel".

So for that I take what she says a little more seriously.


Considering the Empresses government was one of the ones that called for sleeper salvage in the recent rush, and indeed, the ones who got the most and celebrated it, I would dare to say she might be a bit of a hypocrite in this instance.



Mistaking repentance for hypocrisy is an easy stone to stumble on, may you be forgiven. The Empress has doubtless received some divine illumination that has changed her views.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#73 - 2015-01-31 05:08:33 UTC
The last thing I want to do is fight these Sleeper drones and whetever else comes our way; they are an experienced and aged group to be certain; we would dain to anger whoever controls them.

I am doing all I can to find out what I can without violence. Perhaps a dialogue can be established in the future? Some of us have not attacked the seekers yet.

Additionally... I have heard rumors of that same ship- a massive, organic, green vessel sighted alongside a group of the Circadians.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#74 - 2015-01-31 05:43:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
The last thing I want to do is fight these Sleeper drones and whetever else comes our way; they are an experienced and aged group to be certain; we would dain to anger whoever controls them.

I am doing all I can to find out what I can without violence. Perhaps a dialogue can be established in the future? Some of us have not attacked the seekers yet.

Additionally... I have heard rumors of that same ship- a massive, organic, green vessel sighted alongside a group of the Circadians.




Attempts to communicate with them in their "language", which would be binary, have not been successful. But maybe one lone pilot is not a loud enough voice.



"Organic". What is going on there?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#75 - 2015-01-31 05:48:10 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
The last thing I want to do is fight these Sleeper drones and whetever else comes our way; they are an experienced and aged group to be certain; we would dain to anger whoever controls them.

I am doing all I can to find out what I can without violence. Perhaps a dialogue can be established in the future? Some of us have not attacked the seekers yet.

Additionally... I have heard rumors of that same ship- a massive, organic, green vessel sighted alongside a group of the Circadians.




Attempts to communicate with them in their "language", which would be binary, have not been successful. But maybe one lone pilot is not a loud enough voice.



"Organic". What is going on there?

Now, I know this is far-fetched... but I seem to recall reports that data encoded in trinary was discovered in Anoikis at one point; has anything been made of that?

And not so much organic as "organic in appearance"
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#76 - 2015-01-31 15:42:00 UTC
Contact made, of a sort:

Forgive my curiosity oh Lord,

not waiting on you to reveal but seeking an answer myself I
Jet-canned a bit of armor plate in sight of seeker drones near their cloaked station..
I also released the security lock, should they wish to take it..
they were interested very interested as several scanned the can and appeared to simultaneously
report something back to the cloaked structure.
They did not take the contents or alter them,
I'm not sure how they would react if offered sleeper items in this manner..


Luther Renvolint
Order of Interests
#77 - 2015-02-01 00:37:29 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Attempts to communicate with them in their "language", which would be binary, have not been successful. But maybe one lone pilot is not a loud enough voice.


I think you may be right, all those of us who wish to communicate and learn instead of destroy should be sending them the same coordinated message ... perhaps if they receive the same message enough they would respond? Certainly I would be for programming an automated message into my ship's systems when I come into contact with the drones.

U'tah Arareb wrote:
not waiting on you to reveal but seeking an answer myself I
Jet-canned a bit of armor plate in sight of seeker drones near their cloaked station..
I also released the security lock, should they wish to take it..
they were interested very interested as several scanned the can and appeared to simultaneously
report something back to the cloaked structure.
They did not take the contents or alter them,
I'm not sure how they would react if offered sleeper items in this manner..


Xzantanian Research has experimented in a similar way: I fitted a small piece of reverse engineered sleeper tech to my ship to see if their behaviour would change. Warped around until I found four of them scanning a customs depot. They quickly diverted their attention to my ship, all four scanned me then promptly reported back to the cloaked structure. They did, however, seem quite happy for me to keep following them. I wonder if they are trying to find out how much of their knowledge and technology has made it into human usage?

For the next project in my research, I intend to search for a damaged circadian and attempt to repair it as a gesture of good will. Just maybe this will prompt a response. Has anyone else tried this? Any findings would be gratefully received!

The time has come to cast aside our differences such that we, humanity's wayward brothers and sisters, may once again return home. - Vuld Haupt, The Paths of Our Ancestors

Vector Symian
0 Fear
#78 - 2015-02-01 05:35:47 UTC
"Live Event Live Event Live Event" Twisted

*he begins to dance the Live event dance of his people* -(oo)/