Crime & Punishment

I was trying to demonstrate to you that activities that have an unintended incidental impact on other people are not properly classified as "PvP." You didn't get it.

And I'm the bravest man you will ever meet. Bravery is standing firm on your principles, and practicing stoic self control...not pew pewing pathetic miners and haulers in highsec.

wait, wut? please show us some dev posts and quotes that show what high-sec and null were "created" for.

[citations needed]

the problem still remains that CCP allows ganking, scamming, awoxing, cheating, backstabbing, spying, etc as a 100% legit tactic.....and no one ever said that highsec has anything to do with your ideas of "law & order, a police force, and a civilized society" you're again as usual confusing game mechanics with your personal moral cyber bushido that you have no ability to enforce.

please provide examples of where CCP has stated that high-sec was created for the reasons you seem to think. if CCP wanted highsec to be be anything other then what is is, they would change it.

if you want your "law & order, a police force, and a civilized society" perhaps you should stop shooting red boxes and endlessily whinging about about game mechanics and gather your friends corp mates and alliance and make it happen. you are able to form a fleet and enforce your will and ideas about what high-sec was "created for" over a single system, right? start there.. you know, create content besides whinging on the forums and fail trolling.

oh wait.... that would involve a break from shooting red boxes, spamming the minerbumping comments section, and selfprociaming as such a huge amazing troll while trying as hard as you possibly can to derail every single conversation ever posted due to grrr goons grrr code grrrr eve is not wow and someone got in the way of someone shooting a red box or a rock in this game that allows players to get in the way of those shooting a red box or a rock.

it's cool, veers. we'll wait for anything from you but fail trolling and you using that ivy league education to continue telling us about what high-sec was"created" for. we all know no amount of logic will ever get though to you until you finally earn your fail troll forum ban. you have to be getting close now mate, keep it coming.

I have no need to "create content." I'm happy to play with people, not against them.

Real mature...lemme guess...you are affiliated with CODE?

And there certainly is PvE in Eve. The fact that you can make isk killing rats doesn't make that PvP anymore than working at Mcdonalds for minimum wage is a form of PvP against everyone else in the world. The fact that someone can come and commit a crime against you doesn't change the fact that your activity is against the computer program, and not against other live players. Until a third party intervenes you shooting rats is 100% PvE, as it should be - some of us play Eve for that, not for the pew pew. Deal with it.

The problem here is that none of those things in the description you mentioned are actually true. I never had a single ship re-imbursed for my losses, they definitely don't have 4 FC's (lol!) there's no quick or easy access in or out of null, and it's absolutley impossible for me to make ISK because of the corp-standings, no-one ever did any other ISK making activities that I was ever aware of, which meant I had a period of weeks where my corp-mates (who were mostly AFK) would log in for fleets, have a great time etc, and I'd just sit in station in my pod. They even kicked off when I mentioned using a corp to improve my standings for the jump clones.

Shocking as it might be to you, but sometimes people don't tell the truth. Apparently advertising often bends the truth in this way.

[quote=Danalee]Why you want to fly a blinged battleship (for which you clearly don't have the skills to fly nor the isk to loose) in hisec while at war is beyond me. [/quote[

I undertsand your perplexity but the reason why is that the alternative was simply never undock and do nothing much else. I'm fully aware of how stupid it is to be fly a blinged out ship in hi-sec. I knew I would lose it the moment I undocked in it - but I had no other option so did it anyway. The isk isn't an issue, i made a fortune, billions, doing wormhole sites when I first started playing. I really don't care about losing the ship it's not that much isk really. Which is why the same old cliché's about "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" are so empty in this situation because a) I could afford to lose it and b) even if I couldn't I would've done the exact same thing anyway, because the game led me down a dead end where it was either that or sit in a pod and do nothing in nullsec.

dont know how many times this needs to be explained about "doing everything in eve is pvp" yes we know that but its not the pvp people mean, people mean direct combat so please stop trying to throw around "everything is pvp" to justify your actions

Who cares what PvP people mean when they talk about PvP? Do those people matter? All that matters is everything is PvP!

It can be, if you master the ancient art of AFK PvP.

Well, not to let the facts get in the way of a good story, but when you work with people you're working against everyone else.