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Why Afk is fine in highsec
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Jasmine Deer
Perkone
Caldari State
#101 - 2015-01-15 21:38:21 UTC
Imperial Concubine wrote:
Ganking is a necessary part of gameplay.

It teaches you to fit your ships better.

To become less greedy.

To be aware of your surroundings (who is in system?)


Ganking is indeed a part of gameplay. I wish there were more solo and small gang gankers operating in lowsec rather than the usual roams of 10+ that flee at the sight of an opposing force consisting of anything more than 4 ships.

But I take issue with the notion that when it targets people engaged in high sec PvE it should be regarded as a tough-love approach to assisting players.

That is like like saying it is a great to have criminals move into your neighbourhood because it teaches you not to park your car on the street and makes you turn your house into a fortress. It also encourages you to move to a gated community. Null anyone ?

If you want to teach do so in a training corp or start your own.
Hang out in the Help channels.
Join a new corp and offer to lead roams into lowsec.

Whatever.

Let's just cut the pretence that high sec ganking is there to do us all a favour.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#102 - 2015-01-15 21:52:53 UTC
Jasmine Deer wrote:

Let's just cut the pretence that high sec ganking is there to do us all a favour.

Highsec ganking is there to make the game more interesting. As was said, it forces you to make decisions on how to fit your ships instead of the max yield/cargo fit you would use all the time if there was no risk.

CCP apears to agree with this as they have repeatedly confirmed that suicide ganking is an intended mechanic in highsec.

So yes, gankers are doing you a favour by making the game more interesting, and exciting to play.

Eve is a game, and is actually made more interesting with increased conflict and destruction, unlike your neighbourhood.

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Kaely Tanniss
The Conference Council
The Conference
#103 - 2015-01-15 21:56:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
Jasmine Deer wrote:
Imperial Concubine wrote:
Ganking is a necessary part of gameplay.

It teaches you to fit your ships better.

To become less greedy.

To be aware of your surroundings (who is in system?)


Ganking is indeed a part of gameplay. I wish there were more solo and small gang gankers operating in lowsec rather than the usual roams of 10+ that flee at the sight of an opposing force consisting of anything more than 4 ships.

But I take issue with the notion that when it targets people engaged in high sec PvE it should be regarded as a tough-love approach to assisting players.

That is like like saying it is a great to have criminals move into your neighbourhood because it teaches you not to park your car on the street and makes you turn your house into a fortress. It also encourages you to move to a gated community. Null anyone ?

If you want to teach do so in a training corp or start your own.
Hang out in the Help channels.
Join a new corp and offer to lead roams into lowsec.

Whatever.

Let's just cut the pretence that high sec ganking is there to do us all a favour.



Eve is a game...and as such has no likeness or comparison to anything rl. Such comparisons are inaccurate...though I do see what you did there. In the end, you log off of the game. What one does in the game is of no reflection or consequence to rl. I will never understand why people make rl comparisons to a virtual, fantasy, make-believe game world.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#104 - 2015-01-16 00:36:59 UTC
I believe that by bringing up the high sec ganking mechanic it will give the new pilots coming into the game a chance to see the conflict in its 3d form/context and this assist new players as to the games reality

I have indicated I have no issue with high sec ganking and brought this thread up to purely give an (somewhat)unbiased view on your options in high sec regarding the Afk protocols

but the majority seem to be in agreement, its up to you

As a game Eve has freer mechanics.This means that tough love is one of the only effective learning options available to those who wish to play this game. Their can be miscommunication somewhat mis-seeded by the gankers that are after the negative emotions that can be triggered by such events. basically their are 2 different types of gankers.

We have those who are genuine about the mechanic and its need and those who have simply transmuted their trolling into a game play aspect I do ot believe this is not ccp approved based on its own rules

Thankyou for the discussion it will be highly informative