Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You are questioning if someone should be venerable at all.

This is the entire basis of the 'OMG, PvE'rs are TOO SAFE, must counter Local'. How do you justify that argument if people aren't supposed to be venerable?

Lets skip the part where the cloaked ship isn't interacting with the game, because anyone can refuse to interact with or without a cloak and there are plenty of things a cloaked ship can do including some things you can't while in station, and clearly you are because otherwise this thread would not exist. We can skip the compromised combat potential because plenty of ships are weaker.

The entire point is that people are actively evading hunters who then get butthurt that they missed easy targets, and yet you advocate infinite safety at even less effort for your own playstyle.

just an idea

You have : Mobile Cynosural Inhibitors
- 100km effective range
Two minute activation time.

May not be deployed within 200km of another Mobile Cynosural Inhibitor, within 75km of Stargates, Stations or Upwell Structures, or within 40km of a Starbase. Cannot be retrieved once deployed.
Self-destructs after one hour of operation.

You have : Mobile S / M / L Warp Disruputors
- not possible to deploy in 2500m of a gat / ship / WH / ......

Why not a : Mobile Cloaking Disruptor
Same restrictions and effective range as the Mobile Cynosural Inhibitors + do not decloak ships in warp + May not be deployed within 75km of any other deployed Mobile structure

and even : The massive energy required to project this field causes the mobile Cloaking Disruptor itself to be extremely visible to combat probes and directional scans.

Oh FFS, are you illiterate? We've told you over and over again that the reason is that cloaked ships are just sitting there, while PvE players are farming ISK at maximum efficiency with near-zero risk. Obviously farming the most profitable PvE content in the game should have a higher level of risk than sitting idle in a safespot waiting for an opportunity to do something (at which point risk applies again).



No we can't. You can't just handwave away the major balancing factor of cloaking ships being significantly weaker than similar ships in their size class. A covert ops frigate is effectively unarmed, and a cloaking recon ship is much weaker than a HAC or combat recon. And they have similar ISK costs, similar skill requirements, etc, the only difference is the ability to fit a cloak vs. better combat power.

When did I sai LETS REMOVE CLOAKS ?
You have min 100km you can fly and not be decloakt with my proposal only now you need to fly your cloakt ship around a
Very recognizable and visible cloak disruptor

to difficult ?

For all the people who think I'm against cloak gameplay

Answer is no

I fly daily cloak ships ( recon / SB and Transport Ships)
And yes Now Life is a ALT

But never will I camp a system / region and be AFK cloakt for more than 3h ( food / cleaning)
My thought about long time AFK cloak is Weak pvp

Everyone has the right to express his opinion in a normal civilized way
And SB are weak hull but lot of speed and DPS for a frig hull
So you need the cloak to Sneak up your target and travel , not to go AFK the whole day long
I even know when Sb hade cruise missile launchers fitted Instead of torps .
Everyone then said : This is the end for SB

Ships and modules are constantly changing in EVE , PVP and industrial ships /mods to balance the fragile game play of everyone in EVE .

Do you know what you do best?

You adjust to the new game rules

a 2min onlining timer
16 Sb killing a carrier below 5min
1 SB have Enough dps to kill a Faction BS
Ever heard of speed fit , target painter ,censor damp
You need to adjust your fit according to your Victims
And if you attack Any type of ship with the wrong type ship you loos

Its not te poind of cloakin but of long time AFK cloaking

And now I know you miss a civilized upbringing

No they don't, because the bomber can't survive long enough to finish off its target.


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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61912734/

ok 2 SB ooo look a drone ship

lol yep i lost a JF to CODE in high sec
Completely different use of SB

That's ONE KILLMAIL, from a 2v1, where a Dominix didn't bother to fit neuts in their highs. Yes, occasionally stupid people will lose ships, but that doesn't mean that cloaking is a problem.

And with fatigue where does this happen with any regularity these days. Holy ****, cynos get a major nerf with fatigue and jump range nerfs and here we have another "just one more nerf".