Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not empty quoting

Not this straw man again....

You want to disrupt the non-activity of a guy not at his keyboard because that non-active not at his keyboard guy is somehow disrupting your activities...do we understand you correctly?

That you can't disrupt them Mike is your problem, not my problem, not Sonya's not CCP's. Your problem. Go deal with it. Get in fleet, get on comms, rat/mine in a group if necessary. Not everything has to have a hard direct counter.

Do I get the ability to eject people that are AFK inside of stations or POSes as well? :o

read this,

https://steamcommunity.com/app/8500/discussions/0/364040961439188705/

Notice one of the golden rules of EVE is you are safe in a cloaked safespot. They are designated out of play areas as per the devs.

/thread.

That's a nice appeal to authority. Not the worst fallacy you could try if lacked a logical position. Too bad it's neither authoritative or relevant.

First, it's just an outdated wiki comment, not a development document. Second, this is features and Ideas, not How things currently are.

It's nice to hear you admit you aren't interested in actually discussing anything, and instead just want to give opposing positions the run around to clog the board with trash posting.

As I said, not authoritative, nor relevant to a discussion about change.

If you are uninterested in honest discussion, feel free to excuse yourself.

Cloaking modules should have an active counter that requires time and precision to work. I don't care much about people being forced out of their ratting schedules (it's not hard to rat elsewhere), but if someone wants to hide inside someone else's space indifinitely and provide intel, that person has to put actual effort into avoiding being detected and killed. He can stay cloaked as long as he wants, but at least periodic warping should be required.

It's not a statement of how EVE is meant to be. It's an observation of how it is. It's not even a dev statement of intent. It's a player making an observation, that's all.

There is almost no dev communication concerning the specific balance or intent of cloaks. We can infer that there is at least some dissatisfaction with the status quo since that was one of the few functions floated for OA. We can look at the reasoning behind the balance of other things to get a picture of overall development goals, such as the auxiliary armor repair being left far inferior to the auxiliary shield booster because they are trying to move away from systems not susceptible to player interference.

We know what cloaks are, and how they work. The thread is a catch all to discuss suggested changes- evidenced less by its title and more by the fact that any thread suggesting changes to cloaking in any way or for any reason are closed and referred here. Honestly they should just take the AFK out of the title- going afk isn't an issue for anyone.

Maria Dragoon outright stated her only intent was to give me a run around. The entire pro afk crowd has demonstrated little to no interest in any discussion of change, just in shouting down any such suggestion. That has held true for several years, going back to the old discussion boards, when new posters would come nearly daily only to be met by the same few vocal posters shouting them down.

For me this has nothing at all to do with null sec PvE. It has everything to do with a blatantly poorly balanced module that destroys gameplay entirely by making the best move to simply not play at all, on both sides.

What I would like to see is stealth gameplay enabled in a way that does provide opportunities on both sides. I want to try for paper, rock, scissors instead of blowtorch meets paper.

Warping back and forth between two safespots every X minutes is tedious busywork, not meaningful gameplay depth. This kind of thing needs to be avoided.