Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That is a pretty nice Sin fit you lost Feb 16th 2017 and I recognise the Falcon pilot too, interesting... I think I now know exactly who you are, should have realised that earlier...


Naye Nathaniel this is not a dumb player, this player is heavily invested in afk cloaky camping for his kills, go look at the kill board, find the sin loss then check who else was killed in that loss then check their killboard too. You can see the motive of this player very clearly... There is little point in debating with this person because his interest is only in getting kills for hot drops and it is like debating with a block of wood.

Cloaky camping is a problem as it can be an AFK activity but still effect countless players.

Cloaky camper who just sits in system as AFK is one who has yet to grow balls and actually attack the system with friends. It is an activity for people who only like to annoy the hell out of people. Give me a fight any day and I will gladly take it but the bullshit with a guy just sitting there AFK is not good for game play thats a fact.

Do not start with saying look at WH they do not have local you cannot start to compare these areas.
WH does not have local as such its harder to keep track of how much is coming in and out with out players being active. But there are things making WH space less dangerous than NULL.
1. There is a limit to how many ships can be sent into a WH due to the fact a WH will collaps when a certain tonnage has passed through it.
2. If WH guys feel a certain WH is dangrous to let be open they can just close it.
3. It is harder to jump one guy in WH with more guys. Important we are talking about in WH guys home territory. First it is easier to be discovered the more guys you go through a WH with And it is not possible to use a cyno in WHS.

Null
Yes a local exist I am a bit split on should there be a local or not. It might be right that it is to much information. But instead of this system some other intell should be in place then. I would have maybe suggested that we could say that if a person do D-scan that could update the area he is in for some sort of intell for every one ells. Or it could be a specialized ship needed to get information from gates about who have passed through em in the last hour or so. This would make it so that people need to keep active to have the intell, and an investment to make it work is in place. If the ships doing this is taken down reds could have free reign until new ships is acquired. But in return some sort of way to either find a cloaked ship should be put in place. I see 2 sides to it, it is either a way in which players with the right ship, scan probes or some module for the system that can do it. The other option is that the cloaked ship cannot keep the cloak up for ever because either it uses to much capacitor or it has to do with some kind of fuel. The module for the system is the one I least like as I feel like this is not enough work for players to try and keep the system safe.


I can earn allmost as much doing level 4 missions in HIGH as I can doing anom in NULL. Yes there is probably a difference in the amount made when it comes to moons and the other stuff. It is not nearly as high as it should be compared to the extra danger. If you look at WH how ever true they do not have local but they do have an increase in earnings that can be 10 times as high as NULL or at least that is what I have heard. I do not know if it is liars but some say that in an hour it is likely you could make a billion with out a problem. One thing more to take in to account as far as I know NULL sec is way more likely to be attacked than WH space, some reasons are you need the right WH to actually attack people in there while NULL is open all the time. NULL is attacked many times a day in some ways I do not believe you could say the same about WH space in this aspect NULL is more dangerous than WH. You are correct in saying that as the intell is now with local it is highly unlikely that players who actually follow the intell channels gets caught. But I hope that some changes maybe like the ones I kinda suggested above could take care of both problems. The fact that cloaks can be found I think is a good thing it also gives a cloaker if a ship is not always at the gates getting a free pass into the system and might not be found before he has caught a target.

Please do not write anything only taken out of context cause that is only done to fit your agenda and not getting to the truth. And I could have left that part out I just liked giving my take on the NULL and WH. I would rather discuss my attempt for a solution to what we should be discussing in the thread rather than every thing els.

And I do believe that Making intell something you have to work for a good option but in return one of the options about cloaks should be in there as well.

And if you read my thread that is what I would like to get in that specialized ships can get the intell for the local channel but this means that people actively needs to do it to have the intell I am not saying this is a good solution but is one for the intell and for this I then suggest that one of the many option suggested with giving a way to deal with cloakers could be implemented. This in my opinion would affect hotdroppers a little they need to take in to account that they can be found out but this is now dependable upon people working for the intell of finding out that the cloaker is in system cause with out knowing that a lot of time could be used scanning down for nothing in a system. It would allso some time when no players with these ships allow for many red players in a system without other players knowing.

It actually gives another form of game play to. the fact that you can screw up intell if you catch the ships responsible for it.

Reading a badly formatted wall of text with plenty of spelling errors in it isn't something that I enjoy. I only skimmed through your post without reading it in full detail.

Your idea isn't new. It has come up hundreds of times over the years and it would fix the "problem", but it would do so by forcing players to actually do something for their intel.
Read the responses of all these whiny carebears and you'll understand why that's no solution they would accept. The only goal they have is 100% risk-free space and they won't stop crying until they get exactly that.

I don't care for the carebears :)

I just think as it is now it is a bit faulty because I would say both intell to powerful but also cloaks which cannot be forced to uncloak in some way is to powerful. But I would like to enjoy the game trying to find that cloaker and maybe he eludes me because he keeps moving making it hard for me tracking him down. but if he is AFK I could easily find him thats what I would like. I hope that the change do not **** up to much other game play maybe changes some a little but that is a matter of adapting to it.

And I know if this was implemented it might in some areas at least give hotdroppers an increased chance of finding a target as the intell when people have to work for it in this way will not be 100% uptodate. and a hotdropper going in at the right moment if he has but a few mins that is more than enough to find a target.

and sorry for the bad texting :)

At least I can see that we are on the same page then. And I am only in this thread to hopefully suggest some thing that enough people at some point will agree to is a good solution or gives a better way of playing than how it works right now.

Name calling again, you seem so angry. Very soon you will be able to shoot the OA giving local, your chance to step up a bit your game... And that will give you what you want and I am fine with that, shooting the local OA in someones main system however will not be easy...

CCP are going to have OA's for local and all the moaning and whining by people like you about local is null and void, you don't like it then degrade their network. So HTFU and get on with it.

And once CCP implement that they should implement an AFK OA as detailed by me previously in this thread. But what are you complaining about seeing as you don't AFK cloaky camp, I find nothing wrong at all with ATK camping and hot dropping, the only thing I have an issue with is AFK cloaky camping and emphasis on the AFK part.

AFK is bad AFK is bad AFK is bad...

So can buy and sell orders and you don't even have to be logged in for those...

Oh, and they probably affect far more players. Every player after all interacts to some degree with the economy.

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Same with 0.01 ISK price changes. Those should be banned too. In fact, once I put a sell order everyone else should be banned from making a price change! After all it negatively affects my game.

Yup and why not. Free intel is the best intel.