Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Pah, I know as much as you do about how these things operate, what is different between me and you is that I don't hang on easy stuff, don't forget you are the one who cried about the loss of can flipping. The thing is that if you would have had to log off more sabres rather than cyno them in to hold them on grid, it is still possible to do, just a bit harder.

You have standing defense fleets ready to jump or cyno in to counter drop your PvE-ers 24/7. If you don't have that, why are you in null in the first place?

This is my point. Many, many people in null don't put in the effort to actually defend their space. I've now gotten blocked by two people (or very possibly one person with two accounts) who refuse to put in the effort or use existing in game tactics to defend against blops and call for nerfs instead.

Fantastic. Now move back to HS.

Pretty much. The general drift of Dracvlad, et. al. is that they want NS, from a PvE stand point, to be very much like HS. You can do whatever you want solo. But NS is a group effort. It takes a group to take space. It takes a group to defend that space. And AFK cloaking is essentially a type of asymmetric warfare, but somehow that is bad.

Ironically we also get the usual drivel about how "we took your space" which was pretty much another variant on asymmetric warfare. When you attack your opponent with 3x or even 4x the number pilots on multiple fronts...well that's okay. But using asymmetric warfare via cloaks....nope that is bad.

I love how everything is OP except local with these people.....

You have not corrected me once, what you did was put a point of view which I took on board and went with an array for caps too. As a suggestion.

I was referring to your can flipping, what was done by PL in that battle was difficult in one sense but easy in another. The easy thing was getting the ship in firing range and I don't think that should be as easy.

I am having a little giggle, when can flipping was removed I had not mentioned it once in any of my posts, true I found it lame and I have referred to it as a lame tactic but I do not remember ever having asked for it to be removed.

Yes half would have gotten out, hence my comment it made it easier.

You think putting a mobile structure near enemy titans is a good plan, you were confused as to why the dreads were not tackling, you didn't know about dictor being the go to tackle vs capital until I told you, you don't know about the long align times and warping of capitals on grid after a jump, you don't know why dread bombs are dropped on top of the target rather than at range, you didn't know most capital fights are capitals being dropped on other capitals. The list goes on, you have no experience with this kind of gameplay and it's no good trying to lie that you have because you have never been in any organisation that does these things.

Talk about putting words in my mouth, no I was not confused about the dreads not tackling, I was merely pointing out that this is now an option.

No I looked at the BR and saw Sabres, and asked how you got them there, asking whether it was a bridge or a log offski, you really are projecting stupid mate and trying too hard.

As I have capitals I am very aware of the warp in times, however I am talking about the options from my suggestion and how one would have to cater for it including leaving gaps in the bubbles to enable the dreads to warp in close enough. Skilled players like PL could pull that off IMO.

All you have done is prove to me that you are fairly desperate to attack me personally which is rather lame.

I have been in enough alliances and fleets that used caps to know and have talked with certain FC's who have used them, I do admit that my practical experience with them in PvP is limited, but I have been in and around some hits like this, for example I fought in the Tribute war with NCDOT. against the CFC. I was using another character mate, and only used Dracvlad a couple of times after Falcon. I will leave it at that mate... But do continue to tell me I have no experience at all, makes me laugh.

EDIT: And baltec1, after a long time of fencing with you, I just think you are a colossal waste of time and adding you to my blocked list. Au rrevoir....

Actually this thread has really improved without the litter...

Truth hurts. But then this is what happens when a high sec anti gank campaigner comes up against the likes of PL on the subject of capitals thinking they know more. We literally caused 10x more damage in 15 minutes than his organisation has managed in 3 years.

Fixed it for ya bro. Stay on topic, we must force out the fools who think this is a cloaking thread. Keep fighting the power, bro.