Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Is OA really a solve it all to cloaks? and have there been solid confirmations on it?

It really starts the ball rolling so to speak, the OA taking over local for sov systems was actually mentioned by Gath Telkin of PL on this thread I think, and they do tend to get to know about such things being able to get close to the Devs. I would not be 100% certain of course knowing CCP, but it is logical and meshes with their concept of conflict drivers.

My point of view which will get anguished reactions from Teckos and others is that this will enable the little dears to actually do something about local by off lining the OA by well placed shots or two. My view is that the OA must be vulnerable when in operation. Once that is in place then they can no longer fall back on we have no other way to catch people because the first step would be to blow up or off line the OA, thus giving them the advantage.

At that point CCP could come out and do some of the imaginative fixes to AFK cloaky camping. I admit that I really do not want to see cloaks downgraded as a casual player who often gets called away to do stuff, however I also like hunting these low lives and if CCP can create a system that uncloaks but has limited range so people do not have an instant I win button that will interest me greatly and add to the game.

I keep hoping that we get intelligent responses from Devs, but mainly we get the silly replies like you can't shoot anyone while AFK..., which is why I proposed an AFK flag via an OA earlier in that thread, after all so many HTFU players said that it does not matter as they the campers are AFK, but of course it did matter...

That greatly nerfs certain lifestyles though. I have a character that hasn't docked since July and is in hostile areas nearly 100% of the time (and no, I don't cloaky camp or hot drop). That means that playstyle is gone.



So if we nerf cloaking, what is your proposal for a new counter to local chat in sov null?

Assuming it ends up working that way, I'm fine with a nerf to cloaking in null. You can't nerf cloaking without giving a way to take down/delay local.

Leave WH space as it is though please.

They won't allow them to be deployed in WH space. For anything like that, they require sov to anchor. Also, the WH community would throw a fit if that happened. We already think intel is too easily controlled (one of the reasons we are in WHs instead of null in the first place)

There have to be some drawbacks for leaving modules running so long without the player tending to them, not just the cloaking devices. My idea is about wear and fatigue that kick in after a module has been active *continuously* for more than a day or so. It's like modules taking damage from overheating, but much slower and only kick in when modules have been operating continuously without deactivation for a long length of time. This isn't limited to the cloaking device, it can be applied to any kind of module as well. I also suggest that some variations of items can take longer for fatigue to kick in and others can take fatigue damage or penalty better. Like Covert Ops cloak taking longer for fatigue to start applying in field.

which encourage extreme passivity, namely AFK cloakers. There's a reason it's a thing despite the drawbacks.

Frankly I don't give a s**t, everything doesn't actually revolve around the null space pilots of eve. I honestly will leave that discussion to anyone who is willing to entertain it and won't be least bit interested in that topic. Its extremely egocentric thinking that cloaking and null space is directly connected and all other types of game plays takes a back-seat till that particular relation is fixed before we can move on.

It is a thing because of the force projection of cyno's, this fear also exists in NPC 0.0 and in low sec....

6 years living in w-space and roaming around New Eden and the only place I have heard this complaint is from sov-null.