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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6741 - 2016-09-25 10:26:31 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
No one has ever done any harm by being cloaked and AFK.


That is just a stupid troll comment, there are lots of posts in this thread where the harm done by this is explained in great detail.

Reading and comprehension is obviously not you... Shocked


AFK cloaking.

Cant move, cant target, cant shoot and there is nobody at the controls. Yet somehow it is causing harm to people.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6742 - 2016-09-25 13:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
That is just a stupid troll comment, there are lots of posts in this thread where the harm done by this is explained in great detail.

Reading and comprehension is obviously not you... Shocked


Please link me the killmails that someone got while they were AFK. Also link me the names of the sites you can run or materials you can mine while AFK cloaked. Literally all the "harm" is "golly, someone MIGHT shoot me, so I can't undock. Or it's what you said, "warping out of sites if annoying, so I won't bother to run them." Harden up, kitten. Or play a different game.

Thanks. Look forward to your insight.

Oh wait, you'll just call me a troll again, because personal insults are easier to use than logic. Keep it up tiger!


Yes you are an imbecile and a troll, this thread is full of people who have detailed the harm done by lame AFK cloaky camping. Your reading and comprehension skills are sadly lacking, but as you are a troll it hardly matters.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#6743 - 2016-09-25 19:42:26 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Yes you are an imbecile and a troll, this thread is full of people who have detailed the harm done by lame AFK cloaky camping. Your reading and comprehension skills are sadly lacking, but as you are a troll it hardly matters.


So link me the killmail of the person who has died to someone AFK.

I'm still waiting. Drac, just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them a troll. Are you capable of discussing a topic at more than a 16 year old's level?

Jesus kid, stay on topic and stop with the insults. They just make you look sad, and simply prove you don't have a leg to stand on. You ARE 16 years old, aren't you?
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6744 - 2016-09-25 20:17:30 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Yes you are an imbecile and a troll, this thread is full of people who have detailed the harm done by lame AFK cloaky camping. Your reading and comprehension skills are sadly lacking, but as you are a troll it hardly matters.


So link me the killmail of the person who has died to someone AFK.

I'm still waiting. Drac, just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them a troll. Are you capable of discussing a topic at more than a 16 year old's level?

Jesus kid, stay on topic and stop with the insults. They just make you look sad, and simply prove you don't have a leg to stand on. You ARE 16 years old, aren't you?


Still breast feeding mate....

As I said there are plenty of people who posted in this thread about how destructive AFK cloaky camping is to gameplay if you are unable to read them that is your issue..

So you think all miners are AFK, so go and find a CODE destroyer and you will see plenty of them with drones on them from AFK miners they shot, there you go, easy peasey.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6745 - 2016-09-25 20:25:43 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

Still breast feeding mate....

LOOOOOOOL made my day like only You can, Sir Lol
*rofl rofl rofl*
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6746 - 2016-09-25 21:34:14 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

As I said there are plenty of people who posted in this thread about how destructive AFK cloaky camping is to gameplay if you are unable to read them that is your issue..


Can't move, can't target, cant shoot and nobody is at the controls, yet it is destructive to gameplay.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#6747 - 2016-09-25 23:33:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sonya Corvinus
Dracvlad wrote:
Still breast feeding mate....

As I said there are plenty of people who posted in this thread about how destructive AFK cloaky camping is to gameplay if you are unable to read them that is your issue..

So you think all miners are AFK, so go and find a CODE destroyer and you will see plenty of them with drones on them from AFK miners they shot, there you go, easy peasey.


Breast feeding at 16 years old is a bit creepy dude. Not all that surprising though...

When did I say all miners are AFK? Quote that for me please, you adorable walnut.

I have read those "reasons" behind AFK cloaking. It literally comes down to bears like you whining that if they undock they MIGHT be shot. God help it if you can't have 100% risk free PvE in null. So for the third time now, please link a killmail of someone who died to an AFK cloaked ship. Give you two guesses why you can't do that? AFK cloaking is only "dangerous" to the risk averse like you. Working as intended sport.

"Everyone who disagrees with me didn't read the thread and is a gigantic troll" --Dracvlad, 2016. Always good for a laugh.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6748 - 2016-09-26 05:59:59 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Still breast feeding mate....

As I said there are plenty of people who posted in this thread about how destructive AFK cloaky camping is to gameplay if you are unable to read them that is your issue..

So you think all miners are AFK, so go and find a CODE destroyer and you will see plenty of them with drones on them from AFK miners they shot, there you go, easy peasey.


Breast feeding at 16 years old is a bit creepy dude. Not all that surprising though...

When did I say all miners are AFK? Quote that for me please, you adorable walnut.

I have read those "reasons" behind AFK cloaking. It literally comes down to bears like you whining that if they undock they MIGHT be shot. God help it if you can't have 100% risk free PvE in null. So for the third time now, please link a killmail of someone who died to an AFK cloaked ship. Give you two guesses why you can't do that? AFK cloaking is only "dangerous" to the risk averse like you. Working as intended sport.

"Everyone who disagrees with me didn't read the thread and is a gigantic troll" --Dracvlad, 2016. Always good for a laugh.


You seem to like the troll line:

"They can't kill you when AFK"

Hence I called you a troll for it and continue to call you a troll, baltec1 also uses the same line and is trolling too.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6749 - 2016-09-26 07:48:52 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:


You seem to like the troll line:

"They can't kill you when AFK"

Hence I called you a troll for it and continue to call you a troll, baltec1 also uses the same line and is trolling too.


I use the same line because you have yet to give an answer to it.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#6750 - 2016-09-26 08:12:53 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Still breast feeding mate....

As I said there are plenty of people who posted in this thread about how destructive AFK cloaky camping is to gameplay if you are unable to read them that is your issue..

So you think all miners are AFK, so go and find a CODE destroyer and you will see plenty of them with drones on them from AFK miners they shot, there you go, easy peasey.


Breast feeding at 16 years old is a bit creepy dude. Not all that surprising though...

When did I say all miners are AFK? Quote that for me please, you adorable walnut.

I have read those "reasons" behind AFK cloaking. It literally comes down to bears like you whining that if they undock they MIGHT be shot. God help it if you can't have 100% risk free PvE in null. So for the third time now, please link a killmail of someone who died to an AFK cloaked ship. Give you two guesses why you can't do that? AFK cloaking is only "dangerous" to the risk averse like you. Working as intended sport.

"Everyone who disagrees with me didn't read the thread and is a gigantic troll" --Dracvlad, 2016. Always good for a laugh.


You seem to like the troll line:

"They can't kill you when AFK"

Hence I called you a troll for it and continue to call you a troll, baltec1 also uses the same line and is trolling too.


Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6751 - 2016-09-26 08:17:39 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.


So you support AFK play then.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6752 - 2016-09-26 08:28:10 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.


So you support AFK play then.


AFK cloakers can't do anything, they are both not at the computer and while cloaked cant do anything.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6753 - 2016-09-26 08:43:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.


So you support AFK play then.


AFK cloakers can't do anything, they are both not at the computer and while cloaked cant do anything.



So you support AFK play then.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#6754 - 2016-09-26 08:51:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.


So you support AFK play then.


What is wrong with your brain? Have you thought of professional help? I point out a logical fact relating to AFK clokaing and you jumpt to, "So you support AFK play then," despite my almost constant statements that it is balanced but sub-optimal when it comes to cloaking. Why is it people of limited intelligence, like yourself, have to resort to such an intellectually dishonest tactic? Are you subscribing to the notion of the best defense is a good offense, so you utilize and outright and deliberate lie? Are you like this with everyone else in your life? Have you considered that you are perhaps quite possibly a psychopath or somewhere on that spectrum? Or perhaps you are just a piece of **** troll? Yeah, lets go with that, a piece of **** troll....well and dumbass.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6755 - 2016-09-26 09:01:46 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.


So you support AFK play then.


What is wrong with your brain? Have you thought of professional help? I point out a logical fact relating to AFK clokaing and you jumpt to, "So you support AFK play then," despite my almost constant statements that it is balanced but sub-optimal when it comes to cloaking. Why is it people of limited intelligence, like yourself, have to resort to such an intellectually dishonest tactic? Are you subscribing to the notion of the best defense is a good offense, so you utilize and outright and deliberate lie? Are you like this with everyone else in your life? Have you considered that you are perhaps quite possibly a psychopath or somewhere on that spectrum? Or perhaps you are just a piece of **** troll? Yeah, lets go with that, a piece of **** troll....well and dumbass.


So you support AFK play.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6756 - 2016-09-26 09:04:06 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:


So you support AFK play then.


To the same degree that I support people sitting AFK in a station.

You however have defended AFK ratting.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6757 - 2016-09-26 09:12:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


So you support AFK play then.


To the same degree that I support people sitting AFK in a station.

You however have defended AFK ratting.


Quite simply you and people like you support AFK play which directly affects other people, that is all there is to say about the subject.

As for your little digs in reply to my simple statement of truth, I would be quite happy to see auto log off's in terms of people sitting in a station who have no activity for an hour. Fitting in with my AFK flag suggestion from an OS.

And an AFK ratter is making himself more exposed, he is in space in a position to be caught, more fool him, if those people want to give easy kill content to others that is their choice, it really only worked in Deklin when the Goons were protected by their meat shield.

But I repeat my statement, you support AFK play.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#6758 - 2016-09-26 09:13:12 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.


So you support AFK play then.


What is wrong with your brain? Have you thought of professional help? I point out a logical fact relating to AFK clokaing and you jumpt to, "So you support AFK play then," despite my almost constant statements that it is balanced but sub-optimal when it comes to cloaking. Why is it people of limited intelligence, like yourself, have to resort to such an intellectually dishonest tactic? Are you subscribing to the notion of the best defense is a good offense, so you utilize and outright and deliberate lie? Are you like this with everyone else in your life? Have you considered that you are perhaps quite possibly a psychopath or somewhere on that spectrum? Or perhaps you are just a piece of **** troll? Yeah, lets go with that, a piece of **** troll....well and dumbass.


So you support AFK play.


Okay, so...I guess we can conclude you suffer from some sort of mental defect. Roll

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#6759 - 2016-09-26 09:16:40 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


So you support AFK play then.


To the same degree that I support people sitting AFK in a station.

You however have defended AFK ratting.


Quite simply you and people like you support AFK play which directly affects other people, that is all there is to say about the subject.

As for your little digs in reply to my simple statement of truth, I would be quite happy to see auto log off's in terms of people sitting in a station who have no activity for an hour. Fitting in with my AFK flag suggestion from an OS.

And an AFK ratter is making himself more exposed, he is in space in a position to be caught, more fool him, if those people want to give easy kill content to others that is their choice, it really only worked in Deklin when the Goons were protected by their meat shield.

But I repeat my statement, you support AFK play.


But no auto-log offs for those ratting or mining? And exactly how would that work BTW? After all, a mining ships mining lasers have an auto-repeat so you don't have to provide UI input until your hold is almost full.

And lets be clear, an AFK ratter is having as much effect as an AFK cloaker, if not more so since he is actually injecting ISK into the game economy. That affects everyone.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#6760 - 2016-09-26 09:19:45 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, they can't. While an AFK cloaking ship might stop people from ratting, they certainly cannot kill anyone. That is pretty much a truism at this point.


So you support AFK play then.


What is wrong with your brain? Have you thought of professional help? I point out a logical fact relating to AFK clokaing and you jumpt to, "So you support AFK play then," despite my almost constant statements that it is balanced but sub-optimal when it comes to cloaking. Why is it people of limited intelligence, like yourself, have to resort to such an intellectually dishonest tactic? Are you subscribing to the notion of the best defense is a good offense, so you utilize and outright and deliberate lie? Are you like this with everyone else in your life? Have you considered that you are perhaps quite possibly a psychopath or somewhere on that spectrum? Or perhaps you are just a piece of **** troll? Yeah, lets go with that, a piece of **** troll....well and dumbass.


So you support AFK play.


Okay, so...I guess we can conclude you suffer from some sort of mental defect. Roll


If you say so, if it makes you happy, keeps you in your safe space, its fine mate, chill out...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp