Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sure I can. There are number of stations I have clones in right now in Branch. I could log in, JC there and just sit there all day, every day. Not a damn thing they could do either. They can, and have, revoked my clone contract, but so what I can still log in and sit there. And for all they know I have a ship or ships so I could undock and start shooting one of them.

And, yeah while I have no idea what is out in the belts I do know who is docked and who is not. And having lived there I know which systems are good for ratting and not.

And I'll only show up on Dscan...if they are dscanning for me or somebody is docked and watching for me to undock.

People move Supers and Titans, you would make it too easy to hunt them...

Oh, do tell.

First of all the middle ground fallacy is a throw away statement just as my suggestion that having both extremes hate my suggestion, but I think that both extremes will not like my suggestion which I think is a good thing.

I don't care if you want to go all lame and think that I just want risk free PvE, I have said that I like hunting cloaky campers and have kills on my KB showing that, I have also stated that I have ratted with people in system, including people actively hunting me, which makes me laugh at your and that other persons stupid dig.

Let me repeat it, my suggestion is solely aimed at the AFK part...

I'm sorry but I dont buy any of those arguments or can compare it with AFK Cloaky camping.
I've never heard about anyone complaining that someone is unable to play due to a AFK guy inside a station. That's a person you at least know where he is, and even if you have clones you are still limited to undocking once per station there with JC cooldown so you cant jump around various systems and be cloaky camping on a whim.

I've myself had 5 alts that I just moved between 10 different systems, sometimes changing systems a few times per day to interrupt all activity in those systems. If they moved their operation to one system, I just moved a cloaky alt there with no intention what so ever of hotdropping, just to **** with their indexes and they couldn't do ****. I couldn't have done that with JC's and they had no way to defend against that. It's a broken game mechanic.

And I once again I'll say, that AFK Cloaky Camping has got 1000 times more players to leave this game to never return, than it's got players to stay in the game. It's not a healthy mechanic for EVE.
I understand and know how hard it is for hunters to find Blops targets, and it's frustrating to sit on a bridge for 2 hours waiting for a drop. But maybe CCP should address that issue in another way and we shouldn't just assume that AFK Camping is the only way to get kil..ehh easy ganks.

I really don't like the idea with a "button" to press to avoid being logged out due to AFK. It's a bad game design in my opinion, and will hurt others unintentionally. Or people will just setup a "auto click it" tool that will click that box every X minutes, or type something in a empty chat window to simulate activity. It's also a passive detection, i rather see a way for players to hunt AFK cloakers as been suggested before with probes or other mechanics.
The probe mechanic has the pos and cons, I can't make up my mind if its good or bad. That you can then use it in all systems. Which might be bad. I would prefer that you could only hunt for cloaky ships in systems you have Sov in, to give Sov more value. And a structure doing it might be the way to go, but it also feels a bit too passive to me, but I guess it might be possible to make it a citadel (or intelligence array) which requires some activity like probing does and not just a "click this and reveal everything".

It might help if you could explain your issues with scanning cloaked ships after a set period of time. You keep saying it ruins the functionality of cloaks, but that is just a toss away bullshit claim on your part and you know it.

And you seem to have this laundry list of things that people can get by anchoring all these structures with no trade offs at all. It is just bad...and then to invoke game balance. Please.

Respect to you guys too! I like it when we can have a healthy discussion, its easy to get carried away in a heated discussion :)

Unfortunately it's very hard to detect automated things. Just see how hard it's to find all botters. If I would make a tool, I would make it read the screen and when the popup shows up, it will probably have like a 2 minute timer on it. Just make a tool that waits a random period of time between 10-110 seconds to press the button. It will be literally impossible for CCP to detect if it's a tool or a human clicking the button then as there is no "pattern" to detect. And yeah, just stay logged on with that toon for 18 instead of 24 hours.

You are always so upset, you need to calm down.

Simple, RL can get in the way and you cannot always control your ability to get back, so with your suggestion I would have to plan out a play time where I have no possibility of interruptions, and that is very difficult to do for many people So screwing casual players even more.

The game balance was aimed at Super and Titan movement, do keep up, and structures have a cost as already explained to youin this thread.

Shorter Dracvlad, "Hi, I'm Dracvald and I'm schizophrenic."

Still getting angry...