Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Then they are not AFK and you are making an off topic post. And if you know you'll have a defense response maybe you should fit a point on your ship.....



Oh, and when a cloaking ship engages it faces risk. If it did not he wouldn't have warped off.

It is amazing how wrong you can be and so frequently.

Thank you for proving my point on the cost aspect. The marginal cost is so low it is essentially free intel. That is bad.

I never said anything about a bot, and the bot described would not lead to a false positive, but create a false negative. So you are just...well...wrong, again.

Men, learn to read, I don't know, you are making me clueless, don't you want to understand what I write or are you incapable of understanding it ? I'm gonna repeat myself ONE LAST TIME, so bang it in your small head now.

I talk about people abusing the fact that cloaking has no counter and stay ALL DAY LONG in the SAME SYSTEM, waiting for the good moment to attack someone WITHOUT ANY RISK OF BEING SPOTTED OR COUNTERED. And if any response shall be given to the attack, he WILL ESCAPE BEFORE ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. So basically, people AFK Cloaking are people STAYING IN THE SAME SYSTEM ALL DAY LONG, waiting for an opportunity, sitting without any fear of destruction.

If he is sitting there with no fear of destruction then you should not fear destruction either since the only way to maintain that level of safety is to never engage another ship.

Dude, wtf... You seriously are the worst troll ever, in fact you really just don't want to understand and see the truth. I am done with your BS.

You clearly are upset when faced with the illogic of your own statements. A ship that is cloaked at a safe is virtually invincible so long as he is at that safe spot....he is also totally impotent.

Pretty obvious point when you think about it.

There is risk for cloakers, let me explain something to you, seeing I honestly believe you don't know how cloaking actually works

First: Cloakers have to decloak to interact with anything. So guess what that means! He has to decloak to attack you, and that means your bait fleet and drop on his head and blow his ass off the map, also there is a window when he changes systems where he has to decloak before he can warp off the gate (After all cloaks can't stack, so if a covert ops ship is under the effects of a gate cloak, he has to drop the gate cloak before he can activate his main cloak, and even then there is a delay on that, and if you have a bubbler and a good interceptor, you can fly straight at the cloaker to force him to decloak and point his ass.)

Second: Cloakers decloak if they get to close to something (so no stealth bumps broskie) (Also see One)

Three: Cloaks can't hide from the most powerful intel tool that everyone has access to without any training: Local.

Four: All cloaking ships are heavily gimped firepower and defense wise.

Five: Aggressive cloak ships(like the force recon and bomber) targets and target windows is pretty ******* narrow. That means they only have the upper hand on a narrow selection of targets in a narrow selection of situations.

Six: Almost everyone that wants to nerf cloaks fail to take into account the other half of the equation, which in the infallible intel mechanic known as local.

Seven: Also there no instant warping, if he engages you in combat, there a period of time where you can point him, simple as that.

The fact that you are over hyping the combat abilities of cloakers, and ontop of that claiming they have infallible defenses and can instantly warp out makes me believe that you actually don't know anything about the subject of cloak nor their strengths and weaknesses. Ontop of that you constantly fail to respond about the other half of the equation.

As for future reference, I fly a Blockade runner. I've died enough times in it to know that the covert ops cloak is not this infallible device you make it out to be, In fact I would say that cloak has so major fing draw backs to it, and if you make just the slightest mistake you can lose your ship, your gear, and your pod in only a few seconds.

And that is why it is bad and I don't like it. You keep wanting all the certainty on your side.

There no misrepresentation at all. I've seen enough salt, and explosions from T3 Cruisers having their asses blown back to high sec because they were force to decloak, or they decloaked and got counter ganked.



First of all, the "reward" that you speak of, is actually just the miners doing it to themselves. They are the ones clicking the dock button, not the cloaker. THEY are the ones that stop mining in the area, not the cloaker. If a player wants to be so fearful of something they refuse to come out of a space station.... Well that the player's fault. Not the cloaker's fault.

Honestly, there is no minimal risk when A you have such an expensive hull and B you have to travel deep into enemy territory, meaning every system you jump through carry the potential of your destruction.

So I see no reward. No ISK, no PI, no minerals, no resources whatsoever. In fact, no kill. There can be no kill because I am to maintain my 100% safety which can only be done while cloaked. And while cloaked I cannot target nor can I activate modules.