Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I do think they are monstrously broken. The fact you can't hunt a cloaked ship is the broken nature of cloaks. Local and cloaking are tied to each other but they don't counter each other. AFK cloaking does counter local but not the other way around.

Its not a logical reason stating that cloaks are balanced as cloaked ships aren't powerful enough to do enough of an impact. They do an impact so they shouldn't be invulnerable when cloaked. No ship in space should be invulnerable when they interact with the universe of eve in ANY form. Specially when they have the power of

as you yourself stated.

This is hilarious for two reasons.

The first is because it is true, removing D-scan from a cloaked hull means you have to warp to a gate and do a visual inspection of the gate....meaning bookmarks. No bookmark, not visual inspection or hit the gate totally blind. Nerf to scouting, buff to gate camps. So not it is not in the mind of the player as in actual functionality has been removed.

The second is that the effects of AFK cloaking are is all in the minds of the players in systems with a AFK cloaker. But with AFK cloaking no functionality has been removed from the players "suffering" under the horrors of AFK cloaking.

No it is showing that the counter does not have to be decloaking them at a safe spot.

I mean think of this for a second. A safe spot is supposed to provide some degree of safety, at least for a short period of time. But no! With a cloak you might as well just explode given the view of Xcom. The idea that a well placed safe and a cloak is supposed to be quite safe...nope.

And a cloaked ship trying to hunt someone in system....you should be able to be shot, no downside, at any time. Why even fit a cloak I don't know. It is pointless, you fit a cloak you gimp your lock time (bombers excepted) you gimp your combat ability (bombers excepted, a lone bomber is like being attacked by tissue paper). Really, Xcom's position boils down to: make cloaks useless because there should not be asymmetric warfare, there should not be stealth, there should not be a penalty for me getting caught with my pants down. No penalties for me screwing up, but penalties for you for trying to use stealth.

Nonsense and garbage.

Kill them in transit.



It's justifiable because they cannot touch you either AND take massive hits to fit such a module.

I've spent hours upon hours afk in space uncloaked in no security space. It has nothing to do with alts, or otherwise.

This is actually an interesting topic regarding cloaks. You state that ships take a massive hit fitting a cloak. I disagree strongly as there are enough moduals that can impact the surrounding without needing a target lock (as target lock is the only nerf you get). If cloaks were made so as to remove the ability to activate any modual then it would be more fitting to state that fitting a cloak would have enough drawbacks to balance it. Which isn't the case as of right now.

Edit: Still it doesn't justify the ability to gather intel while cloaked. Being cloaked shouldn't be a privileged immunity in any form or another. No ship should be exempt from safety.

You can't have the cake and eat it too. Cloaked ships get 100% safety after they activate there cloak. In return then you should also expect to have all moduals on your ship except for the cloak to go offline as you activate your cloak.

Morrigan
Cake = predictable gate use and cynos
Eating it too = afk capable cloaks

You have the same access to gates and cynos as the cloaky.
Kill him when they hit a gate when travelling to a target system
Or cyno in your own drop
Or switch systems

You can hunt them. Yeesh, are we speaking different languages here, or did you just not read the rest of the thread? Dealing with cloaked ships has been spelled out several times already.