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Bumping turns suspect idea

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Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-01-09 02:24:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Not a redundant post. This is a new idea I thought up on how to make bumpers go suspect without messing with the rest of the game.

You can right-click a player and flag him as a bumper. If he bumps your ship 3 more times after that, he turns suspect.

Restrictions:
-Only works when your ship speed is set to zero, so you cannot flag someone and bump them to suspect them
-Does work if your ship speed is above zero from being bumped
-Does work if your ship speed is above zero but your warp drive is active
-Does not work against players with active warp drives
-Does not work against players with a legal engagement such as war targets or duels
-Setting your ship speed positive or disengaging your warp drive resets the flag
-You can only flag someone for bumping you when you're in a vulnerable classed vessel. Freighters and Orcas are the only ships in this class.

The Jita undock would be nuts!
Unlike other bumping suspect ideas, this has no such consequence. A ship coasting out of the undock has not manually set their ship speed and cannot be flagged for this. A ship aligning out for warp cannot be flagged for this. A ship sitting at zero on the undock cannot be flagged for this. A ship moving on the undock cannot be baited into this as you cannot be manually moving yourself to flag him.

Why should you be able to turn someone suspect for bumping you?
What they are doing is similar to using a warp disrupter on you. They are engaging you in PVP combat. You should be able to shoot back. Engaging players in PVP combat in high-sec without a legal flag usually has the consequence of going criminal. Going suspect is a fair compromise.

Bumping is legit gameplay, this would make it too risky.
If you think that you are risk-averse. Grow a pair, fit some guns on your bump ship, and get some friends in logi to keep you repped.

EDIT: Added another restriction that addresses the (unrealistic) concern of baiting miners or mission runners into this.
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#2 - 2015-01-09 02:32:36 UTC
Get someone pinned against a rock/station/marauder/POCO with a team of 100mn stabbers and a battleship, kill them, lols are had.

This is bad.
Esmanpir
Raccoon's with LightSabers
#3 - 2015-01-09 02:42:50 UTC
CCP is never going to change the bumping mechanic. They consider it a normal part of game play and aren't concerned with the complaints from those who get bumped. Besides, can you image the flood of tears if CCP announced that they had a mechanic to actually flag bumpers? California would no longer have a drought from all the tears shed.

**Actually, they this would be a good CCP April's 1st joke...
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-01-09 02:46:34 UTC
New idea my buttocks, it's simply a variation on a terrible idea that has been brought up repeatedly in the past.

TL;DR
Learn to search, there's a whole damn thread devoted to bumping, and CCPs view on it in the sticky section of C&P

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#5 - 2015-01-09 04:49:32 UTC
seriously...

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#6 - 2015-01-09 04:55:14 UTC
I smell a troll
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2015-01-09 05:33:05 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
New idea my buttocks, it's simply a variation on a terrible idea that has been brought up repeatedly in the past.

TL;DR
Learn to search, there's a whole damn thread devoted to bumping, and CCPs view on it in the sticky section of C&P



Your TLDR is longer to read....



but just no to the op

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
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ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2015-01-09 08:34:52 UTC
Locked. Suspect flagging bumpers has been brought up time and again, here and elsewhere. If you still feel your idea was not adequately addressed in the previous posts on this topic, feel free to post in the thread for it.

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