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Public Service Announcement from CODE

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Piz Caldera
Caldera Mercenaries
#21 - 2015-01-09 10:42:56 UTC
dont do that again!!! Big smileLolPirate

i was sitting just now in the office....all colleagues around, everybody working...
..but i was thinking "a nice, a video, time for a coffeebreak now.."

the coffee now over the monitor, the smile still over my face, the colleagues thinking about what kind of drugs i take...


now i will ask them to buy a permission!
Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#22 - 2015-01-09 12:11:00 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Revis Owen wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Not impressed with the Video...expect a better effort from CODE


How does it compare to AG's video?

Oh, there is no AG video . . . or other content they create.

The AG always FAILS!!! ALWAYS!!!


AG's goal is not to "create content." AG's goal is to have fun and enjoy the game.

It's like complaining that law abiding citizens create less content than bank robbers...it's true....but completely misses the point that "creating content" by engaging in unlawful criminal activity is much worse than standing pat and following the rules.



Veers! Your back..and mirroring Lucas Kell’s exact statements! Isnt that amazing?Roll

Veers…here we are back to the real life analogies. You do realize eve is a game don’t ya? If playing a bad guy in a video game isn’t fun then explain to me why GTA has so many diff versions and has made so much money.

I know Lucas Kell claims he doesn’t know Veers . But I did some digging and found video of Lucas and Veers reading my blog together. You can find it HERE.
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#23 - 2015-01-09 13:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Revis Owen
Veers Belvar wrote:
AG's goal is not to "create content." AG's goal is to have fun and enjoy the game.


And they fail on that goal as well. It's plain to see in the AG channel, blogs, forum posts, etc. Anti-gankers overwhelmingly express mostly the +opposite+ of evidence of having fun and enjoyment. Unfortunately, Veers, your assertions are refuted by obvious facts in plain view yet again.

Anti-gankers are just plain FAIL at everything. Well except for being epic content material for Code.

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.

Velicitia
XS Tech
#24 - 2015-01-09 13:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Revis Owen wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Not impressed with the Video...expect a better effort from CODE


How does it compare to AG's video?

Oh, there is no AG video . . . or other content they create.

The AG always FAILS!!! ALWAYS!!!


AG's goal is not to "create content." AG's goal is to have fun and enjoy the game.

It's like complaining that law abiding citizens create less content than bank robbers...it's true....but completely misses the point that "creating content" by engaging in unlawful criminal activity is much worse than standing pat and following the rules.


AG's goal should be to disrupt ganking operations through cunning and firepower, and to educate the clueless carebears in how to recognise danger and protect themselves. Then you'd be respected rivals (like Gorila was in a past life), and you'd likely have fun (those AGers that don't find that fun could then find something more fun to do).

Instead AG's actions just seem to be to wail about how unfair the game is, accusing gankers of cheating, and accusing gankers of being evil people out-of-game, while posting some seriously (out-of-game) unnerving comments and threats.


You forgot "when someone comes up with plans that might involve cunning and firepower", you get shot down by the louder members and called a spy. I'm still waiting for them to ban me for [reasons].

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#25 - 2015-01-09 21:25:45 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


AG's goal should be to disrupt ganking operations through cunning and firepower, and to educate the clueless carebears in how to recognise danger and protect themselves. Then you'd be respected rivals (like Gorila was in a past life), and you'd likely have fun (those AGers that don't find that fun could then find something more fun to do).

Instead AG's actions just seem to be to wail about how unfair the game is, accusing gankers of cheating, and accusing gankers of being evil people out-of-game, while posting some seriously (out-of-game) unnerving comments and threats.


Why? Seems like a frustrating waste of time to me. Gorilla tried it...and turned to the dark side. The mechanics make it almost impossible to actually hurt gankers, who can use cheap catalysts and not care if they get blown up. It's a waste of time to sit there trying to shoot them, and the opportunity cost in lost PvE income is massive. No thanks.

Personally I'd rather be disrespected by the bad people, and not become another frustrated white knight like Gorilla. I have a lot more fun running incursions that I do trying to foil ganks.

AG's most effective course is to give good fitting advice and to lobby CCP to beef up the criminal justice system in the game so that bad people suffer real punishments.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#26 - 2015-01-09 21:32:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Crumplecorn
"Dammit they're bumping me"

My face when.


Veers Belvar wrote:
the opportunity cost in lost PvE income is massive
Holy ****, this is the thread that keeps on giving. My sides can't take it.

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Christo Severasse
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-01-09 21:47:34 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
"Dammit they're bumping me"

My face when.


Veers Belvar wrote:
the opportunity cost in lost PvE income is massive
Holy ****, this is the thread that keeps on giving. My sides can't take it.


If all the game boils down to for you is income opportunity, making more pretend money, I say more power to code. At least they play the game, not treat it like a job.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#28 - 2015-01-09 22:00:30 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post.

The Rules:
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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2015-01-09 22:12:49 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
I have a lot more fun running incursions
incursions
incursions
incursions



Wait a minute... I broke the code!

Veers wasn't allowed to join public incursion fleets (Jeebus knows why Shocked). It hurt his feelings. A lot.
That's why he started an elaborate troll here on C&P to "force" CODE. to focus more on incursion runners.

Well played.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-01-09 23:05:20 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
I have a lot more fun running incursions
incursions
incursions
incursions



Wait a minute... I broke the code!

Lucas Kell wasn't allowed to join public incursion fleets (Jeebus knows why Shocked). It hurt his feelings. A lot.
That's why he started an elaborate troll here on C&P to "force" CODE. to focus more on incursion runners.

Well played.

D.

Bear


FTFY

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Clrdark4se
Multiplex Gaming
Tactical Narcotics Team
#31 - 2015-01-09 23:57:21 UTC
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Fellow HighSec Citizens,

I've uploaded a PSA from CODE. It can be found here. It simply illustrates what can happen if your Mining without a New Order Permit.:)

Purchase a permit from your local CODE Agent today and you wont have to BEWARE!

I wish you all a Happy and Code-Compliant New Year!



F.O.A.D.
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#32 - 2015-01-10 09:10:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
Veers Belvar wrote:
Revis Owen wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Not impressed with the Video...expect a better effort from CODE


How does it compare to AG's video?

Oh, there is no AG video . . . or other content they create.

The AG always FAILS!!! ALWAYS!!!


AG's goal is not to "create content." AG's goal is to have fun and enjoy the game.

It's like complaining that law abiding citizens create less content than bank robbers...it's true....but completely misses the point that "creating content" by engaging in unlawful criminal activity is much worse than standing pat and following the rules.


As much as I hate to say it...Veers is right..AG's goal is not to create content...it's to take it awayBlink

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#33 - 2015-01-10 23:08:40 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
I have a lot more fun running incursions
incursions
incursions
incursions



Wait a minute... I broke the code!

Veers wasn't allowed to join public incursion fleets (Jeebus knows why Shocked). It hurt his feelings. A lot.
That's why he started an elaborate troll here on C&P to "force" CODE. to focus more on incursion runners.

Well played.

D.

Bear


Not allowed to join public incursion fleets? What on earth are you talking about?

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#34 - 2015-01-10 23:20:14 UTC
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Revis Owen wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Not impressed with the Video...expect a better effort from CODE


How does it compare to AG's video?

Oh, there is no AG video . . . or other content they create.

The AG always FAILS!!! ALWAYS!!!


AG's goal is not to "create content." AG's goal is to have fun and enjoy the game.

It's like complaining that law abiding citizens create less content than bank robbers...it's true....but completely misses the point that "creating content" by engaging in unlawful criminal activity is much worse than standing pat and following the rules.



Veers! Your back..and mirroring Lucas Kell’s exact statements! Isnt that amazing?Roll

Veers…here we are back to the real life analogies. You do realize eve is a game don’t ya? If playing a bad guy in a video game isn’t fun then explain to me why GTA has so many diff versions and has made so much money.

I know Lucas Kell claims he doesn’t know Veers . But I did some digging and found video of Lucas and Veers reading my blog together. You can find it HERE.


Once upon a time CODE laughed at PvE players for claiming the whole group was just james 315 and his alts.

Now the circle is complete...code has reached a new low....accusing all pro PvE forum posting of being me and my alts.

ha!
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#35 - 2015-01-10 23:26:23 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:

Once upon a time CODE laughed at PvE players for claiming the whole group was just james 315 and his alts.

Now the circle is complete...code has reached a new low....accusing all pro PvE forum posting of being me and my alts.

ha!


But the trend of you lot being laughed at remains the same, I notice.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#36 - 2015-01-10 23:47:38 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

Once upon a time CODE laughed at PvE players for claiming the whole group was just james 315 and his alts.

Now the circle is complete...code has reached a new low....accusing all pro PvE forum posting of being me and my alts.

ha!


But the trend of you lot being laughed at remains the same, I notice.


Actually I see a lot more rage than laughter. The idea that people can happily do PvE and play Eve without shooting at other players makes some people very, very mad.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#37 - 2015-01-11 00:40:11 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

Once upon a time CODE laughed at PvE players for claiming the whole group was just james 315 and his alts.

Now the circle is complete...code has reached a new low....accusing all pro PvE forum posting of being me and my alts.

ha!


But the trend of you lot being laughed at remains the same, I notice.


Actually I see a lot more rage than laughter. The idea that people can happily do PvE and play Eve without shooting at other players makes some people very, very mad.


I think they're mad at the idea that these players are trying to make it so that it is outright illegal to shoot someone in hi. (I.e. they want 100% safety enforced by game mechanics).

There is nothing wrong with "wanting" to play without shooting another player ... the problem comes in when the people who want this expect that their gameplay desires to be enforced on everyone else (even though they're the antithesis of EVE).

So if those people would get off their soapbox about how "evil" or sociopathic (etc.) that the "bad guys" of EVE are, and just see it for the "valid gameplay" that it is, there would be less of a problem.

Not saying that the ganking crowd is 100% "in the right" here, but that the problem here stems out of some subset of players "not getting EVE".

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#38 - 2015-01-11 01:06:44 UTC
I have this feeling that the number of posts Veers makes is inversely proportional to the amount he wins.

The Artist Formerly Known As AC. 

The terminal end of the digestive system. 

The Best CSM Candidate

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#39 - 2015-01-11 01:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Veers Belvar
CODE Agent AC wrote:
I have this feeling that the number of posts Veers makes is inversely proportional to the amount he wins.


By definition that number of posts I would make under that scenario would be 0. Not wishing to deny you folks the brilliance of my posting, I've decided to go above and beyond that number For Free
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#40 - 2015-01-11 06:23:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
Veers Belvar wrote:
CODE Agent AC wrote:
I have this feeling that the number of posts Veers makes is inversely proportional to the amount he wins.


By definition that number of posts I would make under that scenario would be 0. Not wishing to deny you folks the brilliance of my posting, I've decided to go above and beyond that number For Free


Well, I do have to say perhaps with this statement "By definition that number of posts I would make under that scenario would be 0" Veers has surprised me with an accurate statement twice now...but then...."Not wishing to deny you folks the brilliance of my posting, I've decided to go above and beyond that number" he kills it with the follow-up statement. Hehehe..oh well...baby steps Cool

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

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