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HAC and CS for lv4
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Nad'x Hapax
Hapaxa
#21 - 2015-01-13 20:14:47 UTC
The Ishtar can compete with most mission BSs when it comes to mission completion times. Just sayin.

Also u dont NEED T2 projectiles to fly a Vargur well
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2015-01-13 20:58:33 UTC
True. But that extra 8% damage does certainly help.
sevrisyn
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-01-14 00:00:28 UTC
To mare wrote:
sevrisyn wrote:
Tbh I don't care about isk/hr id rather have fun . I think I've settled though gona train for a vargur so that's me probably not playing eve until I get my t2 large guns (rip 1month) . this was also a reason for looking at the smaller ships since a while back I got my t2 med's (missiles and auto/artillary)and cruiser skill when I was messing around trying to fly a Loki / tengu / leigon when I wasn't ready.

so you think BS are not fun (probably because they are slow?), you are willing to skill for large projectile and somehow you settle to skill for the Vargur which is a marauder that will be immobile once you press the bastion button when with pretty much the same training time (probably less) you could skill for a Machariel which handle like a cruiser but have BS dps and range.


Its more I didn't want to add yet another set of ship flying skills I have every race trained apart from galantee. And I didn't want to have to get two sets of bs up to lv5. And I figured if I was gona get a bs I may as well go full in and get a marauder. I have also never seen a machriel in action before I've heard there good though. I may also find them less fun probably because I've never had a bs do more damage than my battlecruser well like 400 ish so a little higher .I never felt the speed loss was worth the 40 ish DPS I was gaining again probably a skill thing.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#24 - 2015-01-14 00:34:20 UTC
sevrisyn wrote:
Its more I didn't want to add yet another set of ship flying skills I have every race trained apart from galantee. And I didn't want to have to get two sets of bs up to lv5. And I figured if I was gona get a bs I may as well go full in and get a marauder. I have also never seen a machriel in action before I've heard there good though. I may also find them less fun probably because I've never had a bs do more damage than my battlecruser well like 400 ish so a little higher .I never felt the speed loss was worth the 40 ish DPS I was gaining again probably a skill thing.

by the time you get marauder 5 you might get gallente BS5 and its probably a better skill to have.
the machariel will be faster than your average battlecruiser.
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#25 - 2015-01-14 03:50:12 UTC
sevrisyn wrote:
[quote=To mare][quote=sevrisyn]I've never had a bs do more damage than my battlecruser well like 400 ish so a little higher .I never felt the speed loss was worth the 40 ish DPS I was gaining again probably a skill thing.

Wait a minute, are you saying that you're only getting 400dps with a battleship? I think I found your problem...
sevrisyn
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-01-14 11:55:24 UTC
Chris Winter wrote:
sevrisyn wrote:
[quote=To mare][quote=sevrisyn]I've never had a bs do more damage than my battlecruser well like 400 ish so a little higher .I never felt the speed loss was worth the 40 ish DPS I was gaining again probably a skill thing.

Wait a minute, are you saying that you're only getting 400dps with a battleship? I think I found your problem...



Yeah that's correct about 400/440 from every battleship exept the nightmare were I scrape 500
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-01-14 12:51:33 UTC
you're not ready to fly a battleship then.

Art of Explosions
sevrisyn
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-01-14 13:07:46 UTC  |  Edited by: sevrisyn
Aye that's why I was looking at alternatives since with lv4 in all support skills and the guns them selves I'm still geting naff DPS so I figured I should wait till I get t2 guns (which I assume is the solution) till attempting them again

Edit: thanks for the info
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