Wormholes

Was posting about this multiple times really faster than logging into the game and having a friend d-scan while you cloak?

It takes a few secs for the ship to disappear off dscan, just like it takes a few secs to disappear from overview.

It's aligned with the cloak animation time. When the animation completes then you're actually off overview and d-scan. :)

Idk Jack, that guy makes Newbro vids.

LIke i said in your F&I post, its about 2-4 seconds you stay on dscan after hitting cloak, seen it more times than i could count.

Since you live in a wh on your own (yes i enjoyed reading your move-in reports) it might not have had as much player interaction or watched as many ships and fleets jump in and out of holes as someone who has, so i guess you might not be as aware as other.

I think its basically so that anyone being vigilant has a fair chance of catching someone on dscan as they jump into their hole and cloak up.

Not strictly true. I have had some people (mainly Asteros and Tengus from my experience) stay on the overview for near enough 5 seconds before they are gone. All the while they are "invulnerable" because the server shows they are cloaking.

So something did change then. Cloaking used to be instant and you would disappear from the overview right away, barring server delays and latency. Now it seems you don't disappear right away but gain invulnerability until the process is complete. I've never seen an invulnerability message on anything that wasn't on a station or in the process of jumping a gate before. So that explains how the overview and d-scan could be linked and the ship could still show up on scan for a few seconds without being vulnerable to fast lockers.

For as far back as I can remember it has been that you are visible on dscan for an excrutuating long couple of seconds no matter hiw sneaky, clever or quick you are at hitting buttons. This was long before the animation bit.

^this.
nothing has changed, nothing is new, cloaking was never instant, move on.
it's how it is and has been since always, deal with it.

At the risk of pissing off a few people and losing some of the goodwill I've been shown in the past, I have to respectfully disagree. I spent enough time on roams and in gate camps in the old days to know it worked differently than it does now.

Cloakers never showed for more than 2 seconds if they were on top of things. And 2 seconds was pushing it, generally it was closer to one. I know this because anytime a person cloaked after coming through a gate, the first thing we would try to do was decloak them. If targets were showing on the overview for 2-4 seconds on average, we'd have caught a lot more. Some people were really good at this and in that second or two they could spot the ship, aim for it and get moving. I was a bit slower with the camera and would usually dive near where the decloaking pro's were heading.

On the other side of the situation, if I was visible for 4 seconds after cloaking, you'd never even see me cloak. I'd be off grid and in warp by the time I disappeared. I've never seen this happen, ever. It may be possible now though, I haven't been in a position to test that since I got back.

I looked through a bunch of patch notes, and there wasn't a definitive "we're changing this" anywhere. The server tick system did change with Incarna, back in 2011. Since then there were a few minor adjustments to cloaking mentioned in some of the notes, but nothing major besides the change in visuals. The cloaking animation change was too recent to have been the culprit.

So i really can't say what it is, but it's not the same as it was the last time I was heavily involved in gangs/fleets. I'd have to go back through corp history and killboards to figure out the last time I was in a position to witness it. It's not really worth pursuing though, I'll just adapt to how it works now.