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EULA and getting people to sing on comms to save their ship

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Hugh Knight
Why You Running...
Muh Zkill...
#1 - 2015-01-07 16:10:10 UTC
HI Guys,

i was told that getting people to sing on comms for their ship/pod is breaking something in the EULA. is their a clear answer from CCP on this.

Solecist Project
#2 - 2015-01-07 16:14:06 UTC
Legal.
Even devs did it.

Next.

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Sorao Soreen
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Men Of Mayhem.
#3 - 2015-01-07 16:14:24 UTC
Don't think it's against the eula. It to get confirmation open a ticket
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#4 - 2015-01-07 16:28:03 UTC
Given that CCP devs have been tackled and ransomed their ships by singing on comms, and a good time was had by all, the answer is a pretty clear 'no.'

Someone still has trouble sitting comfortably after the whole Erotica 1 thing, which was never about singing for your ship anyway.

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Hugh Knight
Why You Running...
Muh Zkill...
#5 - 2015-01-07 16:35:06 UTC
Sorao Soreen wrote:
Don't think it's against the eula. It to get confirmation open a ticket



yep i opened a ticket, i just want to make sure i am not going to upset anyone if i get in that situation, would be good to get a clear answer from CCP on this too so it stops confusion, so far about 50% of people say yes and the other are saying no.

Ill update the this thread once i get the response from CCP
Mario Putzo
#6 - 2015-01-07 16:36:28 UTC
There is a fine line, in the Erotica1 threadnaught it was established that making someone sing to save their ship is ok, making someone read something stupid was ok, doing it for an excessive period of time is not ok...that is harassment.

At least that is what I got out of it anyway. But tread carefully **** off the wrong blogger and you could end up on the wrong end of a witch hunt.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#7 - 2015-01-07 17:05:41 UTC
It pretty much goes that as long as someone doesn't feel harassed, then its fine.

Singing is fine, if its like a song or something. Its when you do crap like make someone sing for hours, that it now becomes harassment.

At the same time, however, someone could justifiable feel harassed if you try to force them to sing on coms. So its a thin line

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#8 - 2015-01-07 17:09:22 UTC
Hugh Knight wrote:
HI Guys,

i was told that getting people to sing on comms for their ship/pod is breaking something in the EULA.


It's only against the EULA if they use Auto-tune.

Mr Epeen Cool
Gorthanator
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-01-07 17:16:23 UTC
just blow up their ship if they are going to be like that about it.
Hugh Knight
Why You Running...
Muh Zkill...
#10 - 2015-01-07 17:24:20 UTC
Gorthanator wrote:
just blow up their ship if they are going to be like that about it.



I prefer to just kill it, but there are more and more FC's out there trying to be cool by doing this, had an FC in spectre fleet have us catch a guy in proc in low sec we lost the sec status to catch them then the FC wanted to get him to sing on comms the fleet said no so he gave the order to let him go.

seems to be a trend in eve at the moment. if it is going to get more traction i just want a clear answer from CCP just so i know and can't get banned for it.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#11 - 2015-01-07 17:26:59 UTC
It seems to depend on who you associate with.

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The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2015-01-07 17:32:48 UTC
Support Ticket.


Like nuking something from orbit, its the only way to be sure.


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Solecist Project
#13 - 2015-01-07 17:36:41 UTC
To be safe I strongly suggest to honour this ransom!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Hugh Knight
Why You Running...
Muh Zkill...
#14 - 2015-01-07 17:43:37 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
It seems to depend on who you associate with.



what do you mean? CCP do not care who is what, you break the rules you get banned or not.
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#15 - 2015-01-07 17:57:03 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
To be safe I strongly suggest to honour this ransom!

RIP ransom honoring since.. ~2011? Kinda miss those days..

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Caldari State
#16 - 2015-01-07 18:00:41 UTC
It sits very definitely within the grey area. Some posters have said:

Mario Putzo wrote:
in the Erotica1 threadnaught it was established that making someone sing to save their ship is ok


but that is very definitely NOT the case. No CCP clarification was made in any way on the matter, and only player consensus judged this as "probably" safe, and as we all know, player consensus means jack-all when the hammer drops.

As a completely non-official suggestion I would say it was ok to ask (as there has been plenty of pre-Erotica precedence on the issue), but take a "No" for a "No" and do not force the point, very definitely do not record it (and make it clear on comms to everyone not to do so, so in case some cretin does, your clear "Do not record this" is in the evidence), and pull the trigger at the first indication of the "victims" "stress" (any swearing, traces of restrained anger in their voice), and call it a day.
J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#17 - 2015-01-07 18:10:00 UTC
Hmz.

I feel an ISD with lock and key approaching.

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#18 - 2015-01-07 18:14:52 UTC
This thread will get locked if you come up with Mr. Mayonaisse.

The lot of you misinterpreting history,
or outright changing it,
or simply not ******* understanding it ...

... should go somewhere else for your crap.

Read up on what happened and the reason becomes obvious for anyone
who doesn't lack common sense, empathy and decency.

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-01-07 18:19:26 UTC
LOL adults behaving like little children at school.

OP, convo the guy once, ask if he wants to sing for his ship/pod.

Yes --> Do it, have fun, and f*k this game if anybody gives you trouble afterwards

No --> Blap him immediately and move on

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Panda McLegion
#20 - 2015-01-07 18:23:08 UTC
Hugh Knight wrote:
HI Guys,

i was told that getting people to sing on comms for their ship/pod is breaking something in the EULA. is their a clear answer from CCP on this.



I think the answer to your question is "No."


There is not a clear answer from CCP on this.

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